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#188628 - 12/17/07 01:01 PM Hocus Pocus Sound quality tweaks?
JKP005 Offline
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Registered: 06/25/07
Posts: 37
Loc: Bay Area
Last week I was visiting a website that sells speaker cables, interconnects, power cables and everything in between. What kind of intrigued me was the outrageous claims they made about their products. If you do not hear a "SIGNIFICANT" improvement in sound quality , send the product back for a FULL refund. I decided to try one of their power cables. What did I have to lose right? I even called the company and the guy on the other end told me, try the cable if you don't love it, send it back for a full refund, even postage!

So on Saturday I received the power cable. I invited 3 friends over that evening to evaluate this so called wonder power cable. I prefer evenings to do serious music listening. It's quieter, darker and easier to focus, I think anyways. One of my buddies that came has the best hearing of anyone I have ever met, almost scary. Anyways, I decided to hook the cable up to my CD player for the demo. I also decided that I would keep it a secret from my guests as to which cable they were listening to and to keep my opinions of the results if any to myself.

I put in a multichannel SACD by Allison Krause, Live at Union Station, track 4, disk two, into my Sony player with Mods by TRL. I would play this song 1/2 to 3/4 the way through, swap cables and replay the song. I did this 10 tens, 5 for each cable.

Unanimously, every single time they found the sound from one particular cable to sound better. I am not talking just a little better, but unbelievably clearer and crisper in sound.

They all thought they had picked my old cable, wrong. They picked the new cable.

Good news is, my system sounds even more awesome than it did. Bad news is that not only do I have to keep this cable for my CD player but I have to buy another one for my receiver.

Made a believer out of me...


Jerry in Calif
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#188629 - 12/17/07 01:10 PM Re: Hocus Pocus Sound quality tweaks? [Re: JKP005]
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hmmm

This should bring in some interesting comments...
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#188631 - 12/17/07 01:12 PM Re: Hocus Pocus Sound quality tweaks? [Re: JKP005]
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Registered: 08/27/07
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Loc: Laval, Quebec, Canada
A believer in what? Name the website and the company! ;\) When someone "believes" like that, they can't help themselves mentionning the "magical" company every five seconds... \:D
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#188632 - 12/17/07 01:20 PM Re: Hocus Pocus Sound quality tweaks? [Re: EFalardeau]
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Loc: Warrenton, VA
 Originally Posted By: EFalardeau
A believer in what? Name the website and the company! ;\) When someone "believes" like that, they can't help themselves mentionning the "magical" company every five seconds... \:D


my thoughts exactly
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#188633 - 12/17/07 01:49 PM Re: Hocus Pocus Sound quality tweaks? [Re: vassillios]
JKP005 Offline
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Registered: 06/25/07
Posts: 37
Loc: Bay Area
The reason I didn't mention the Co. is that I feel it is inappropriate to advertise outside vendors here. Plus, it's not like they are paying me to promote the products.
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#188635 - 12/17/07 02:11 PM Re: Hocus Pocus Sound quality tweaks? [Re: JKP005]
Worfzara Offline
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Registered: 07/25/05
Posts: 709
Loc: London area, Ont, Canada
 Originally Posted By: JKP005
The reason I didn't mention the Co. is that I feel it is inappropriate to advertise outside vendors here. Plus, it's not like they are paying me to promote the products.


WHAT????? These forum are full of endorsements of products that we all use. Some good, some not so good.

That comment is almost as ridiculous as the first one you posted saying the cable actually made a difference in sound!

Paul
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#188636 - 12/17/07 02:15 PM Re: Hocus Pocus Sound quality tweaks? [Re: Worfzara]
Worfzara Offline
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Registered: 07/25/05
Posts: 709
Loc: London area, Ont, Canada
My house, as with most homes in North America use 14/2 copper wire to transfer 110V 15 amps of electricity from the panel to the outlet. Assuming there is a good connection at the panel and the outlet, and as long as the cable going from your outlet to your audio component is as good as 14/2, logic would dictate that the sound would be the same.

The theory of constraints says that you must work on the weakest link in a chain to make the chain stronger. In this case the weakest link would be the 14/2 wire in your walls.

I am not saying you and your buddies did not hear a difference. However, I am asking for some type of scientific proof. What is the scientific measurable basis for such a claim that a cable from the outlet to an audio component improves sound quality?
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#188639 - 12/17/07 02:44 PM Re: Hocus Pocus Sound quality tweaks? [Re: JKP005]
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Registered: 12/26/03
Posts: 10398
Loc: Calgary, Alberta
 Originally Posted By: JKP005
The reason I didn't mention the Co. is that I feel it is inappropriate to advertise outside vendors here. Plus, it's not like they are paying me to promote the products.


It isn't like you are taking money away from Axiom as they do not sell power cables, so fess up and let us know these miracle workers so the rest of us can enjoy "significant" improved sound quality.
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#188641 - 12/17/07 02:47 PM Re: Hocus Pocus Sound quality tweaks? [Re: jakewash]
Worfzara Offline
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Registered: 07/25/05
Posts: 709
Loc: London area, Ont, Canada
By you not mentioning the name of the company and product specifics, your credibility with me and I am sure with other's here is less than zero.

You say you found a wonderful way to improve sound quality but won't share the secret with the rest of us. The claims you make are difficult enough to believe based on logic, but by not allowing others to try your recommendation, your claims and findings can't be substantiated.

In other words your post has no value and is pretty much useless to the rest of us.
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#188644 - 12/17/07 03:20 PM Re: Hocus Pocus Sound quality tweaks? [Re: Worfzara]
JKP005 Offline
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Registered: 06/25/07
Posts: 37
Loc: Bay Area
Sarcasm rears its ugly head. If I had of mentioned the company that I purchased the cables from in my post, I most certainly would have been crucified as a shield for the company. The value in my post, and my sympathy goes out to those unable to grasp this, was to share the fact that over the weekend I have found and now believe in that there actually is a difference in sound quality with different types of cables. My credibility? Tell someone who gives a flying F.

Merry Christmas
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