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#188699 - 12/17/07 07:16 PM Re: Hocus Pocus Sound quality tweaks? [Re: Mojo]
Mojo Offline
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Registered: 01/21/07
Posts: 3292
Re: quantum. I have to hand it to the scammers who dream this stuff up :).

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#188700 - 12/17/07 07:28 PM Re: Hocus Pocus Sound quality tweaks? [Re: Mojo]
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Registered: 06/25/07
Posts: 37
Loc: Bay Area
The cable I bought was more than $150.00 one you mentioned. But its not the money that is in question, its the results. Anyone can be a naysayer, been there done that. I believe only in what I hear and most of the time not even that which is why I bring in others to listen and give honest unbiased opinions as well. Never knock something till you try it.
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#188710 - 12/17/07 08:26 PM Re: Hocus Pocus Sound quality tweaks? [Re: JKP005]
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Registered: 07/25/05
Posts: 709
Loc: London area, Ont, Canada
For every improvement to an audio system there must be some type of scientific basis for the improvement. Speakers sound better because of many things, including driver design, box design, crossovers, etc, CD players and processors because of DAC's, even amplifiers (big debate) due to power supplies and capacitors and board architecture. I'll even go so far as to say there is some evidence for anti-vibration tweaks. This makes sense and it is logical.

So if one power cord sounds better than another one, there must be a scientific reason for it. It's not just black magic or the hand of god.

 Originally Posted By: JKP005
Never knock something till you try it.


Well HELLO, I'd like to try it, but since you won't give me/us the company name, I CAN'T!

Paul
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#188711 - 12/17/07 08:33 PM Re: Hocus Pocus Sound quality tweaks? [Re: Worfzara]
Wid Offline
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Registered: 06/22/03
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Loc: The Peoples Republic of Il.
He did, it is Mapleshade.com. I get there sales catalog and to say they sell questionable tweaks is an understatement.
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#188715 - 12/17/07 08:54 PM Re: Hocus Pocus Sound quality tweaks? [Re: Wid]
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Registered: 07/25/05
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Loc: London area, Ont, Canada
Sorry, I missed that post; I do apologize for the last outburst.

I do have an interesting question for you, and I am being serious. Is the cord plugged directly from your DVD/CD player to the wall outlet, or do you have it plugged into a power bar or power conditioner/surge protector.

I am being genuinely curious. If you have it directly into the wall outlet, have you tried it in a power bar, does/did it make any difference in sound.

I truly believe that you and your friends heard a difference in sound quality; I am just trying to find out why? My engineering background forces me to trouble shoot these type of things, to help me find the answer.

Thanks

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#188737 - 12/17/07 09:42 PM Re: Hocus Pocus Sound quality tweaks? [Re: Mojo]
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Registered: 01/03/06
Posts: 680
Loc: South Florida
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The only audio tweak that I personally have found to work is a shiny, smooth Canadian beaver on my EP600 :).


I am NOT touchin' that one! \:\) (Not that I wouldn't be tempted )

Thx JKP005 for letting us in on the site... much appreciated!
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#188738 - 12/17/07 09:43 PM Re: Hocus Pocus Sound quality tweaks? [Re: JKP005]
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Jerry, it's more than a little difficult to take such reports seriously. From the standpoint of basic principles of audio technology there's not even a plausible reason set forth why replacing the power cord that the manufacturer supplied could make an audible difference. They would be sabotaging their own product by supplying a cord inadequate to allow for the performance they'd worked hard to design and manufacture. Audio equipment has a relatively low demand for power compared to such more demanding items as hairdryers and hotplates, and the cords supplied are more than adequate for the purpose.

Your own use of an expensive Analysis Plus cord previously would seem to indicate that you were hardly in the category of a "skeptic" previously and didn't have to be "shocked" into becoming a "believer", as you've mentioned. Looking to Bob Harley for information on audio matters would also seem to indicate that you're willing to take seriously the bizarre concepts of "high end" audio which he frequently supports despite the lack of any factual basis.

No, it isn't necessary for everyone to continuously reinvent the wheel and personally try these strange products before labeling them as ridiculously expensive scams. Properly controlled double blind listening tests have failed to validate the claims of those marketing magic power cords, cables, players, amplifiers, etc. to the gullible.
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#188742 - 12/17/07 10:05 PM Re: Hocus Pocus Sound quality tweaks? [Re: JohnK]
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Loc: Leesburg, Virginia
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Don't knock it until you try it


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No, it isn't necessary for everyone to continuously reinvent the wheel and personally try these strange products before labeling them as ridiculously expensive scams.

Exactly, JohnK. I didn't have to try cocaine, heroin, speed, etc. before labeling them as unworthy of use.
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#188745 - 12/17/07 11:13 PM Re: Hocus Pocus Sound quality tweaks? [Re: pmbuko]
blackstar79 Offline
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Registered: 09/06/07
Posts: 109
Loc: Ottawa, Ontario
$225 for a power cord? really? really? why is it that the more expensive electronic products get the uglier they look? if i'm paying $225 for a power cord it better be purdy!...$225? really? i'll stick to my cheapo $40 power bar that lets me plug in 5 things at a time!!
i must say though, the IONOCLAST sounds like a super product, stop me from playing my terrible sounding staticky CD's...tell you that homeless man i saw on the street the other day would love that power cord to keep his pants up.
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#188748 - 12/17/07 11:24 PM Re: Hocus Pocus Sound quality tweaks? [Re: blackstar79]
terzaghi Offline
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Registered: 04/04/07
Posts: 4848
Loc: Tulsa, Oklahoma
I think I like this one the best:
http://www.mapleshaderecords.com/audioproducts/powerstratum.php

A 5 dollar powerstrip glued on top of some maple wood with brass feet for $700.

If anyone wants one of these I will fabricate it and sell it for half the cost! I'll even throw in a couple of free triads:

http://www.mapleshaderecords.com/audioproducts/cablelifts.php

And I will close with a great quote:
"I got even more dramatic results dabbing our brand new silver contact lube on all my stereo system connections: the new punch in the bass, the new treble clarity startled even my demanding ears."


Wow, is this guy really lubing up his stereo equipment?

What a load of crap



Edited by terzaghi (12/17/07 11:26 PM)
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