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#192344 - 01/15/08 08:20 AM Re: New line goes blu-ray only [Re: DaveG]
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It has also been rumored that Toshiba (and the rest of the HD-DVD camp) is just setting themselves up for Sony to "pay them off" to stop making HD-DVD. If they can prove that they are still a viable option, then Sony would have to pay more to get them to stop. If they roll over and die by themselves, then Sony doesn't have to pay anything, or very little anyway.

Not my thoughts, just some "analyst's" comments I read yesterday.
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#192347 - 01/15/08 08:40 AM Re: New line goes blu-ray only [Re: nickbuol]
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#192410 - 01/15/08 01:49 PM Re: New line goes blu-ray only [Re: nickbuol]
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 Originally Posted By: nickbuol
It has also been rumored that Toshiba (and the rest of the HD-DVD camp) is just setting themselves up for Sony to "pay them off" to stop making HD-DVD.


Buying out your competition just seems wrong.
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#192420 - 01/15/08 02:41 PM Re: New line goes blu-ray only [Re: jakewash]
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 Originally Posted By: jakewash
 Originally Posted By: nickbuol
It has also been rumored that Toshiba (and the rest of the HD-DVD camp) is just setting themselves up for Sony to "pay them off" to stop making HD-DVD.


Buying out your competition just seems wrong.


The 'No Compete' clause always had me scratching my head, and it happens probably 90% of the time.
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#193237 - 01/21/08 03:24 AM Re: New line goes blu-ray only [Re: RickF]
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A little more bad news for HD-DVD.

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#193239 - 01/21/08 07:44 AM Re: New line goes blu-ray only [Re: jakewash]
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HD-DVD RIP could be.
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#193243 - 01/21/08 08:40 AM Re: New line goes blu-ray only [Re: jakewash]
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 Originally Posted By: jakewash
A little more bad news for HD-DVD.

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It is funny that they say that the numbers went from 2:1 sales (about 66%) to 85% of sales for the week were Blu-Ray. Blu-Ray had 3:10 to Yuma come out that week which is supposed to be a really great movie (I've got it at home from NetFlix but haven't watched it yet) and is the best release for Blu-Ray ever according to sales numbers.
No significant release that week for HD-DVD, so obviously sales would be higher for Blu-Ray for that week. HD-DVD also has 27 releases for January 2008, and Blu-Ray has 26, so the content coming out is about the same in numbers. HD-DVD has more "documentaries" and such though and less movies this month than Blu-Ray.

I'm not blind to what is going on but I hate propagandist spins put on things. That is like saying "Company A made 3 times more widgets in the first full week of 2008 than Company B did." When in actuality, Company B is shut down the first full week in January. Obviously Company A would make more widgets.

I find it highly unlikely that the announcement made by Warner had any impact on the bulk of the movie buying customer base out in the world. Most people who aren't addicts like us, didn't even know about it, let alone care about it. They go on with their days not knowing of such changes without any concern.

So this isn't really any "new news", just a different regurgitation of what has already been said, but with a different negative spin on it. Nothing against jakewash, just afterdawn...


Edited by nickbuol (01/21/08 09:10 AM)
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#193311 - 01/21/08 07:22 PM Re: New line goes blu-ray only [Re: nickbuol]
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 Originally Posted By: nickbuol
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I find it highly unlikely that the announcement made by Warner had any impact on the bulk of the movie buying customer base out in the world. Most people who aren't addicts like us, didn't even know about it, let alone care about it. They go on with their days not knowing of such changes without any concern.

So this isn't really any "new news", just a different regurgitation of what has already been said, but with a different negative spin on it. Nothing against jakewash, just afterdawn...


Or it could be the other way around. Most people don't know a Bluray from HD DVD from DVD. But what they *heard/read* in the last two weeks or so is that "Bluray won"

Doesn't matter if it's true or not, that is what is being seen all across the headlines. So it's conceivable that people went and bought more Blurays. At work, I know of one person that went and bought a Bluray player because "I heard they won, so I pulled the trigger"

For the consumer, having one declared winner is probably better. I believe in competition, but not at the risk of slowing down the progress to HD content. Either format is fine by me in terms of quality (I own both format players.) At this point, it comes down who has a better marketing/maneuvering/dealmaking, and from the looks of it, Bluray did that better.

Hell, even Bill Gates was hedging in a recent interview.



Edited by Hansang (01/21/08 07:22 PM)
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#193335 - 01/21/08 11:29 PM Re: New line goes blu-ray only [Re: nickbuol]
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3:10 to Yuma is indeed good. Highly recommended.
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#193342 - 01/22/08 12:49 AM Re: New line goes blu-ray only [Re: Hansang]
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Hansung, I still disagree. 3:10 to Yuma is the largest selling Blu-Ray disc EVER, so it wouldn't matter what week it came out, as long as it was a week with no significant HD-DVD release, then obviously the numbers would have tilted quite a bit towards Blu-Ray. I would think that the people that did what your friend did and pulled the trigger on Blu-Ray because they heard that it "won" would be a very small fraction of that additional 15%.

Again, things are looking bleak for HD-DVD, I know that, I am just pointing out how these numbers, which as I stated above are almost exclusively due to 3:10 to Yuma sales, are slanted, skewed, and otherwise turned into the same type of propaganda that Sony has used from the start knowing that most consumers don't research the truth behind the statistics and put blind faith into what they read online or in print. Holy crap that was one long run-on sentence...
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