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#201813 - 03/25/08 01:53 PM Re: VP150 Concern [Re: SirQuack]
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Loc: Glendale, Arizona
 Originally Posted By: sirquack
I just read the entire review you stated above, and I don't see any statements regarding deficiencies in the 150?


In the minus column it states: "Some drop-off in dialogue crispness at off-center seats."
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#201818 - 03/25/08 01:57 PM Re: VP150 Concern [Re: St_PatGuy]
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Gotcha Randy... to your point though, you do have to search hard to find that one partial criticism.
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#201826 - 03/25/08 02:21 PM Re: VP150 Concern [Re: St_PatGuy]
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 Originally Posted By: St_PatGuy
zzyzx, have you thought about using a bookshelf speaker as a center channel? I realize this may not be plausible because of size and/or placement issues, but I'm just trying to offer a different angle.


I really want to use the VP150 (it will fit my console perfect BTW \:\) ), I just wanted to make sure the off axis stuff was no big deal.

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#201827 - 03/25/08 02:23 PM Re: VP150 Concern [Re: zzyzx]
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The home theater portion of my 8,000 cu ft room is about 16ft wide by 30ft deep, and I only have 1 150 that works great for all seats in The Plex.
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#201828 - 03/25/08 02:30 PM Re: VP150 Concern [Re: myrison]
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 Originally Posted By: myrison
zzyzx, when I read Tom's comments, they don't seem directed at you, they were expressing general frustration. I realize a lot of forums are filled with people who want to yell at each other, but that's not the case here. In general you'll find this is one of the friendliest forum groups around, so I'm sure we can all get along. \:\)


Yes I agree with the friendliness and also excellent information provided here, I was just a bit taken back by Toms comments

 Originally Posted By: myrison

I for one agree with this review. I do notice that the sound when right in the sweet spot is fantastic and there is a noticeable difference when moving to the front right or left position. Now, do I think it's "bad" when off-center? No, not at all (and I don't think that's what the review indicates either). It is simply not as good as it is dead center.

I should preface my comments by saying that I do not have a professionally trained listening ear, and I didn't listen to dozens of different speakers before making my purchase. I have to imagine that off-axis sound is always worse regardless of the manufacturer, but I didn't listen to enough other speakers to tell you how much better or worse Axiom is than average.

So, in summary of a long post. The VP-150 sounds tremendous when listening in the sweet spot. It still sounds quite good when listening off-axis, though to me there is a noticeable difference. This does not affect my happiness with the speaker. I would buy it again (and may in fact do so in the future to add a second below my screen at some point in the future) \:\)


Excellent, it's good to know it's a center channel effect rather then a some type of design issue.

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#201829 - 03/25/08 02:31 PM Re: VP150 Concern [Re: SirQuack]
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I'm pretty close (5.5 feet) and all the positions on the couch have great service from VP150. For music, there is a slight advantage to be dead-center, but that might not even be related to the VP150! \:\)
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#201830 - 03/25/08 02:32 PM Re: VP150 Concern [Re: SirQuack]
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 Originally Posted By: sirquack
The home theater portion of my 8,000 cu ft room is about 16ft wide by 30ft deep, and I only have 1 150 that works great for all seats in The Plex.


Thanks!

Nice set-up!

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#201832 - 03/25/08 02:44 PM Re: VP150 Concern [Re: ihifi]
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 Originally Posted By: ihifi
zzyzx,

I didn't see a sub in your selections. Do you already have one or thinking about it?

John


Hi John,

I'm still not sure on the sub, I have a 15X20 living room that flows into the kitchen as well as a pitched(8'-14') ceiling. I have been looking at the SVS PB13-Ultra with interest though

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#201839 - 03/25/08 02:55 PM Re: VP150 Concern [Re: zzyzx]
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Registered: 06/20/03
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I'd think that the performance of the VP150 - especially relative to lobing and off-axis response - would be HIGHLY dependent upon room acoustics.

Thanks for reminding me about the S&V review. I've been a subscriber for years, and apparently just blocked that part out \:\)
As the VP150 is a pretty non-standard configuration and the testing was not done blind, I can't completely discount the notion that the reviewer was subconsciously influenced.

Only way to find out is in your room with your ears.

Again, mea culpa. I will tell my friend at work that "Mister Grumpy Pants" has been admonished for the day.
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#201845 - 03/25/08 03:15 PM Re: VP150 Concern [Re: tomtuttle]
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We should only allow Tom to post after his morning cup of coffee. ;\)
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