So he must really be laughing at my half watt .

Well, my 130W Denon does a great job at running the M80s to loud levels and certainly sounds as great as any amp I have heard. Now an A/B comparison is truly where you will be able to hear and notice the differences when present.

I just think that Axiom needs to build more efficient speakers. For every watt that goes into a speaker, 99% gets converted to heat. We didn't all buy heaters...we bought speakers .

Ah, and there's the rub. No one as of yet has attempted an even semi-scientific comparison. All I've read so far from new owners regarding comparisons is "There's no need". I can understand how they feel after firing up the new amp, but I personally need more than that. That's why I'm eagerly awaiting Mojo's picking one up so I can get the real poop!

So I've become the authority? Oh boy! Time to start charging .

Exactly, the kids can make their own clothes and you have a steady supply of protein or so it sounds from the other thread. What are you waiting for? Charge It! Wilma and Betty would be proud!

This may not be as scientific as you want but there are numerous side by side and listening comparisons with several other amps over a long period. At the end of the day voltmetres and graphs will only take you so far.

http://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=188805&fpart=1

That's funny. Well they are both right, aren't they. Much depends on how far away you, type of music, and how loud you want to listen.

Disregarding other factors influencing amp performance, going back to that useful Allegro power calculator if you want 6db of headroom for dynamic range for the M80s in room and sit at no more than 2.8 metres you are good to go with 100w. You sit any further away, more watts please.

http://allegro-sound.com/Power.html

I think if you'll read carefully, you've been anointed as a dispenser of "real poop".

Who's the toilet paper?