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#200094 - 03/12/08 02:56 PM Re: A1400-8 [Re: alan]
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I don't know if I would use the word "interesting" as much as "important."
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#200095 - 03/12/08 03:05 PM Re: A1400-8 [Re: alan]
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 Originally Posted By: alan
 Originally Posted By: Mojo
My Denon has a "rated" output of 1.2V. By rated, I assume Denon means maximum. And I assume that's RMS.


Hi Mojo,

In a perfect world, all manufacturers would adhere to the standard line-level preamp and AV preamp output levels in order to ensure compatibility between different components. However, I can tell you from my days bench-testing gear for a Canadian AV magazine, that so-called "standard" output levels varied all over the place. I sometimes measured preamp outputs as high as 7 or 8 volts, which would overload the input section of any amplifier.

It would be interesting to actually measure a Denon or Integra's preamp output levels when Audyssey is operating. . .

Regards,

Alan


You wouldn't happen to know anyone with the tools to pull that off would you? This seems like good information for us to have so there aren't so many returns on a $3800 unit.

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#200098 - 03/12/08 03:22 PM Re: A1400-8 [Re: StuntGibbon]
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I was going to order an A1400-8 today then I run across this information. Not being able to use Audyssey is a deal breaker for me! My problem is that even if it works OK with my Denon AVR-3806 I am planning to replace it shortly (but maybe not within 30 days depending on firmware developments) with an Onkyo 885. I don't know where this leaves me. Why is Axiom the only one with this issue?

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#200100 - 03/12/08 03:26 PM Re: A1400-8 [Re: Ken.C]
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 Originally Posted By: kcarlile
I don't know if I would use the word "interesting" as much as "important."


Yeah, "interesting" is a euphemism I use when I'm trying to avoid saying something offensive. A more precise phrase in this context would be "highly revealing."

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#200101 - 03/12/08 03:28 PM Re: A1400-8 [Re: Dundas]
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I am sure Tom will come up with an answer soon. The most difficult part of this is understanding the problem.

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#200102 - 03/12/08 03:35 PM Re: A1400-8 [Re: jakeman]
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 Originally Posted By: jakeman


Other folks like ihifi (John) have use the Audessey in the Onkyo 905 without problem.

In any event I've always felt the Audessey programs were not very good and very overhyped so I never use them.



Hi John, actually ihifi has not used Audyssey and was waiting (like me) for a more definitive answer. Since Denon, Onkyo and others are using versions of the Audyssey EQ it would seem to me that Axiom would want to ensure compatibility. Even though I have had mixed results with Audyssey, I am not ready to abandon it as an option on my processor and would hope that Axiom is working toward a solution.

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#200103 - 03/12/08 03:40 PM Re: A1400-8 [Re: rmk1]
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Actually, John meant me and the 805! \:\)
There might be some built-in limits when Audessey is used in an integrated receiver as to not overload its specified limits.
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#200104 - 03/12/08 03:55 PM Re: A1400-8 [Re: EFalardeau]
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 Originally Posted By: EFalardeau

There might be some built-in limits when Audessey is used in an integrated receiver as to not overload its specified limits.


There are the Integra, Onkyo and NAD PrePros as well as all the AVRs that are being used as PrePros (mine included) without any reported issues. This problem seems to be unique to Axiom.

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#200105 - 03/12/08 04:01 PM Re: A1400-8 [Re: Dundas]
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Digital amp compared to analog with regards to why Axiom?
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#200106 - 03/12/08 04:06 PM Re: A1400-8 [Re: jakewash]
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 Originally Posted By: jakewash
Digital amp compared to analog with regards to why Axiom?

There are lots of other digital amps.

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