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#205743 - 04/27/08 11:01 PM Single M22 as a center
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Ever the curious one, I have yet another question.

Would a single M22 as a center be a better choice than the VP100? Better than the VP150?

Looking at the pricing of centers got me thinking. I happen to have an empty toolbox that measures 8x20" so I moved my display stand (cofee table) into position and stood the toolbox on end in front of it.

The toolbox would definately look much nicer in HG cherry, but it didn't look imposing or out of place in that position.
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#205744 - 04/27/08 11:09 PM Re: Single M22 as a center [Re: fredk]
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Can't speak to a comparison with the VP100 or 150, Fred, but can say that a single vertical M22 works well as a center speaker and better than horizontal MTM configurations that I've heard.
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#205745 - 04/27/08 11:16 PM Re: Single M22 as a center [Re: JohnK]
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Thanks John. I fired the question of to Axiom as well to see what they say.
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#205782 - 04/28/08 11:26 AM Re: Single M22 as a center [Re: fredk]
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Fred,

I use two M2's above and below my screen, in a vertical orientation, and while its not an M22, they M2s sound simply amazing.
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#205798 - 04/28/08 12:51 PM Re: Single M22 as a center [Re: Hutzal]
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I have tried it and it did have better horizontal dispersion and sounded a bit more dynamic just like the dual M22s on their sides but for some reason I did find the vocals more locatable from the speaker rather than the screen unlike the VP series, but that could have been my positioning of the M22 in front and below the TV rather than my VP series being above the TV.
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#205820 - 04/28/08 02:48 PM Re: Single M22 as a center [Re: jakewash]
fredk Offline
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Oh oh. Too many options. Axiom says: 2xM22 is better than vp150 which is better than single M22. I wonder if that is because of the more directional nature of one M22?

Maybe 2xM2 might be the best choice if it will give me better spread of sound. I checked and the M2 won't quite fit under my coffee table/display stand.

I also have a line on some v1 speakers but am not sure how to value them, particularly since it involves a set of M3s that I don't realy need.

I thought my speaker fund growing faster than anticipated was a good thing, but now my head hurts!
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#205823 - 04/28/08 03:05 PM Re: Single M22 as a center [Re: fredk]
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Hmm. Axiom says the VP150 would still perform better than two M2s. No mention of the 100.

I was looking at my setup, and I could actually put the M2s either side of the display. I wish I understood more about the design of and compromises for centers.
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#205824 - 04/28/08 03:08 PM Re: Single M22 as a center [Re: fredk]
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How big is your display, how far away from it do you sit and how far apart are your fronts?

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#205826 - 04/28/08 03:20 PM Re: Single M22 as a center [Re: Mojo]
fredk Offline
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The display is a 50" rptv. I will sit 7.5-8ft away. Right now I am looking at putting the fronts about 10ft apart. Because of a doorway, my choices for the fronts are 5ft apart or 10ft apart.
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#205904 - 04/29/08 01:58 AM Re: Single M22 as a center [Re: fredk]
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OK, I did some searching and found a couple of interesting articles on centers and it looks like, even with well designed centers, there is interference between horizontally aligned drivers. So any of the bookselves, in theory, should give better off axis performance than a center.

Jason and Hutzals observations match what I have read.

Hutzal. I think you might have the right idea. For a little bit more cost than the vp100 I should get very nice off axis response and dialog centered on the screen.

I have no idea what the impact would be of the different driver configuration vs the vp150 (two tweeters, two woofers vs one two tweeters, three woofers).



Edited by fredk (04/29/08 01:59 AM)
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