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#207493 - 05/08/08 09:57 PM New Axiom System
zzyzx Offline
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Registered: 02/12/08
Posts: 40
On 4/22 I received my Axiom Factory Direct order. I ordered:
2- M80's Black Oak
2 - QS8s Black Oak
1 - VP150 Black Oak
2 - FMS QS Stands Black

Only one box was beat pretty bad. After close inspection of all equipment, everything arrived flawless except 1 M80. It had received a nice dent on the side that was consistent with one of the holes in the box. Maybe they used a hook to grab the box No big deal though.

Why have I taken so long to comment? Here's why.
I have a brand new Yamaha RX-V1800 that I hooked up to the 2 M80's and VP150 expecting musical bliss. What I found was a very harsh flat sounding sound stage. I tweaked my system for hours trying to make it work. All I could think of was the few comments I had read regarding how "bright" sounding the Axioms were, but I also remember the comments about people saying how full the sound stage was. Even though many people said the Yamaha would be fine something was telling me the Yamaha was the weak link here. So I decided to make another purchase based on overwhelming reviews and results people were getting using the Emotiva XPA-5. I also called Brent at Axiom and explained how disappointed I was with the Yamaha Axiom combination. He assured me the XPA-5 would be the difference.

Last night my XPA-5 arrived, hooked up my M80's and VP150, turned it on and was stunned! It's like I have different speakers in the room. They are warm, full and the bass is amazing. Also, listening at low levels is incredible.

I have not hooked up my surrounds yet, but will get to it soon

The advice that I have received here has been extremely helpful and I am now a happy camper. I am so relieved I made the right decision purchasing that amp, it has made all the difference, not to mention it's starting to get a bit expensive:)

Thanks Guys!

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#207494 - 05/08/08 10:05 PM Re: New Axiom System [Re: zzyzx]
SRoode Offline
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Registered: 03/20/08
Posts: 1200
Loc: Fishers, Indiana, USA
Good for you! I have noticed with the Axioms, my weakest link is some of my CDs. MP3s are mostly unplayable at this point unless I rip them myself at the best settings.

Brent and the gang have been extremely helpful to me as well. I broke a spike moving my speakers into final position, and I asked Brent if I could have 1 replacement.... I got 2! I chose to buy Axioms mostly for their renowned customer support as well as the support from this group. I have not been disappointed.

Welcome to the flock zz!
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#207495 - 05/08/08 10:10 PM Re: New Axiom System [Re: zzyzx]
grunt Offline
connoisseur

Registered: 12/04/06
Posts: 3569
Loc: Nirvana
Glad to hear that they are working for you and good instincts on switching to the Emotiva.

Thanks for sharing this as it’s just the type of thing that is helpful to other potential Axiomites. Also I’m personally interested in hearing more about the XPA-5. I’ve been thinking about trying out some Emotiva products for some time so I would love to hear more about how you think the Axioms sound with them.

Keep posting!

Dean
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#207496 - 05/08/08 10:15 PM Re: New Axiom System [Re: grunt]
terzaghi Offline
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Registered: 04/04/07
Posts: 4848
Loc: Tulsa, Oklahoma
did you have them send you a new m80? I would.
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#207500 - 05/08/08 10:28 PM Re: New Axiom System [Re: terzaghi]
zzyzx Offline
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Registered: 02/12/08
Posts: 40
 Originally Posted By: terzaghi
did you have them send you a new m80? I would.


It's just a cosmetic thing that is off to the left of the speaker. Just as long as the speaker(s) are fine, I'm fine. If it was really major I would have asked for a claim.

I'm very suspicious that Axiom just gave me new speakers. I saw no flaws whatsoever, other then the flaw that FedEx created.

I do believe though that Axiom should consider a better container design for the heavier items such as the M80


Edited by zzyzx (05/08/08 10:43 PM)

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#207501 - 05/08/08 10:39 PM Re: New Axiom System [Re: grunt]
zzyzx Offline
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Registered: 02/12/08
Posts: 40
 Originally Posted By: grunt
I’ve been thinking about trying out some Emotiva products for some time so I would love to hear more about how you think the Axioms sound with them.


All I can compare at this point is my Yamaha RX-V1800 and the Emotiva XPA-5. I was very reserved and critical when I hooked up my XPA-5. All my reservations and skepticism went out the window after listening to a few different tracks powered by the XPA-5. Like I said in my previous post, it's like I have a different speaker

I can't help but wonder how many people in the past have not sufficiently powered their Axioms and became disappointed and gave up.

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#207505 - 05/08/08 10:55 PM Re: New Axiom System [Re: zzyzx]
HomeDad Offline
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Registered: 12/29/05
Posts: 3301
Loc: Central,California
Glad everything worked out and you are enjoying your speakers.
I do find it a bit odd that the Yamaha was unable to drive the speakers well enough, possibly a fault in the receiver or is it that Yamaha products have a problem with Axioms.
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#207509 - 05/08/08 11:08 PM Re: New Axiom System [Re: HomeDad]
jakewash Offline
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Registered: 12/26/03
Posts: 10398
Loc: Calgary, Alberta
 Originally Posted By: HomeDad
I do find it a bit odd that the Yamaha was unable to drive the speakers well enough, possibly a fault in the receiver or is it that Yamaha products have a problem with Axioms.
This is just more proof that not all Yamaha's are capable of driving the M80's which is why Axiom does not recommend Yamaha products for use with the M80s. But yes, I am also a little surprised.
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#207511 - 05/08/08 11:12 PM Re: New Axiom System [Re: HomeDad]
turbo16v Offline
veteran

Registered: 01/19/08
Posts: 175
Loc: SkiUtah!
They make a great combo!!

I also have m80's, qs8's, and vp150 hooked up to my xpa5 and mmc1. The sound is unbelievable!!... try running just the m80's with your reciever set to large and sub turned off. The xpa5 will make them sing. \:\)

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#207543 - 05/09/08 10:14 AM Re: New Axiom System [Re: jakewash]
zzyzx Offline
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Registered: 02/12/08
Posts: 40
 Originally Posted By: jakewash
This is just more proof that not all Yamaha's are capable of driving the M80's which is why Axiom does not recommend Yamaha products for use with the M80s. But yes, I am also a little surprised.



Let me try to explain a little better.

The Yamaha can drive the M80's. It's the way that the Yamaha drives the speakers that's in question. As another post in another forum put it, the receiver he was using seemed to blend all the instruments together creating a muddled effect. Using the amp clearly defines and separates the instruments and vocals. In addition when the Yamaha was cranked up the sound becomes increasingly flat and distorts a little bit. The receiver was very hot as well. When I ran the XPA-5 at higher volumes the sound was consistent at all levels.

I am by no means an expert in any of this, but this qoute from another forum seems to make sense to me:

"However, the advantage that the separates enjoy comes from everything being, well, separate. By separating the power amp from the pre-amp, you get less noise, better bass, and a more dynamic sound - punchier is the term that is generally used. The pre-amp is able to work better because it doesn't have to share the power supply and chassis, etc. with the noise producing transformers and such that are found in power amps.

This also gives the designers more room to work with, the circuits can be spread out a bit more, thus helping to reduce noise even further."


The above quote seems consistent to what I experienced.

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