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#212295 - 06/19/08 10:07 PM Re: Speaker wire with new Axioms [Re: edmondwolfman]
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Bobby, welcome. It's pretty much already all been said here about wire and cable(you should particularly study the info from Mr. Russell that Peter linked, if you haven't had a chance to do so), and yes, this is one of the biggest rip-offs in the present audio scene.

Appreciate your sig line, and you might find a recent thread(in the Water Cooler section)about recommendations for a compact pistol to be of interest.
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#212296 - 06/19/08 10:07 PM Re: Speaker wire with new Axioms [Re: edmondwolfman]
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Registered: 04/15/08
Posts: 267
Loc: Seattle WA
 Originally Posted By: edmondwolfman
Loudness doesn't make it sound good but if it sounds good you can probably play it loud ;\)

Of course what would be really cool is playing Loudness loud: Loudness (stick with the original Japanese version)

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#212328 - 06/20/08 01:37 AM Re: Speaker wire with new Axioms [Re: terzaghi]
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Registered: 06/17/08
Posts: 135
Loc: Edmond, OK
 Originally Posted By: terzaghi
The denon 3808 is a very good receiver. Tons of options, the internet radio, streaming network ability, GUI, and robust amp make it one of the best receiver on the market at its pricepoint in my opinion

Not sure what you paid for it, but it can be purchased from 6ave.com for $1098 with no taxes or shipping fees. 6ave is an authorized dealer by the way.

I have the 3808, m80's, Qs8's, vp150, and ep500. you will love your axioms!

oh yeah,
I am ready for football to start!




Thank you. I finally hear from someone using the 3808 and the Axioms. I have the M60s and the vp100 on the way, my space is pretty small so I hope the 60s sound good there. I think without looking that I paid $1180 for the receiver but like I said earlier they took me to the shed on the HDMI cable and I actually got $20 off that.

I'm ready for football too \:\) Good luck to you unless you're playing us (OU)


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#212330 - 06/20/08 05:05 AM Re: Speaker wire with new Axioms [Re: edmondwolfman]
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You have heard from 2 that have the 3808 and Axioms. It is a great combo. I previously ran an older Denon 1804 with M22s then briefly with the M80s and the system still sounded great. The Axioms are very easy to drive and sound very clear, you should love your new system.

I just realized who you are after a quick peek at AVSforum, glad you found your way over here.
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#212335 - 06/20/08 08:29 AM Re: Speaker wire with new Axioms [Re: jakewash]
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yah, the 3808 drives the m80's with no problem, and of course will power the m60's with ease as well.

MY living room is only 2150 CF (but is open to a kitchen/dining area and hallway. In that size room the m80's sound great... Oh yeah I sit about 11 feet away from my m80's.

Not a bad deal on the receiver from ultimate electronics- they use to be the most expensive place in town. (at least the one in tulsa was)

Hope you stick around the boards- I need someone to ridicule when we beat OU in football this year.


Oh yeah, pictures are nearly a requirement around here.

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#212347 - 06/20/08 10:56 AM Re: Speaker wire with new Axioms [Re: jakewash]
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Registered: 06/17/08
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Loc: Edmond, OK
 Originally Posted By: jakewash
You have heard from 2 that have the 3808 and Axioms. It is a great combo. I previously ran an older Denon 1804 with M22s then briefly with the M80s and the system still sounded great. The Axioms are very easy to drive and sound very clear, you should love your new system.

I just realized who you are after a quick peek at AVSforum, glad you found your way over here.


Thanks jakewash. I guess I screwed up. When I tried to register with the same name here that I did over at the AVSforum and it said someone already registered with that same email address, which was me but with a different screen name.

Axioms left Syracuse this morning and although delivery date says 25th I suspect I'll see them Monday or Tuesday \:\)


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#212349 - 06/20/08 11:02 AM Re: Speaker wire with new Axioms [Re: terzaghi]
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 Originally Posted By: terzaghi
yah, the 3808 drives the m80's with no problem, and of course will power the m60's with ease as well.

MY living room is only 2150 CF (but is open to a kitchen/dining area and hallway. In that size room the m80's sound great... Oh yeah I sit about 11 feet away from my m80's.

Not a bad deal on the receiver from ultimate electronics- they use to be the most expensive place in town. (at least the one in tulsa was)

Hope you stick around the boards- I need someone to ridicule when we beat OU in football this year.


Oh yeah, pictures are nearly a requirement around here.


I wish I could sit 11 feet away but the way my living room is setup it also opens to a dining room and kitchen area but I can't move my listening area back because it would be in the middle of a walkway/path.

Pics will be posted as soon as I get everything in place \:\)

I have a few questions about tuning in the speakers with my avr but I'll do that in a comment to follow. I've read all the info in the Axiom site and it is very helpful but I'm kinda dense and have to have some things spelled out for me.

You may have to wait a couple more years on winning that football game. Even though we lost a couple of good defensive backs most everyone is back and I hear the replacements for those we did lose are shaping up to be at least as good and probably better
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#212351 - 06/20/08 11:11 AM Re: Speaker wire with new Axioms [Re: edmondwolfman]
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Registered: 06/17/08
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Loc: Edmond, OK
Questions for those with 3808s because your familiar with that receiver and input from others that understand setting up a receiver and speakers.

Should I not use Audyssey MultEQ auto setup?
Read somewhere (maybe here) that the best way is to not use auto and do everything manually with a sound meter from Radio Shack or similar.
If so would I set everything to 0 and work from there with the built in tone generator? What kind of levels will I be looking for or does the manual with the sound meter explain all that?

Just trying to get a head start so when the Axioms walk in the front door I can hit the ground running
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#212367 - 06/20/08 12:35 PM Re: Speaker wire with new Axioms [Re: edmondwolfman]
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Registered: 12/29/05
Posts: 3301
Loc: Central,California
Try the Audyssey and see if you like it. I use it as well as others on the board, I'm am very happy with the results. If you don't care for how it sets everything up then calibrate manually. But it is easy and worth the small effort it takes to try it first.
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#212405 - 06/20/08 04:33 PM Re: Speaker wire with new Axioms [Re: HomeDad]
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Registered: 07/23/04
Posts: 3822
Loc: Up yonder
I continue to see folks bashing Audessey here and elsewhere. To each their own I reckon, but I sure like what it does in my room with my set up. So ya, I agree with Michael, give it a whirl first before you get on the Audessey basher bus. Just make sure you take your time with mic positioning and make sure that you do not have any background noise when doing the set up. After you run it, verify distances and SPL levels. You might also want to change speaker sizes and X-over settings to your liking.

I was running my M80’s with the 3808 and it did just fine. I added a 200X5 amp and didn’t notice a dramatic difference. A wee bit more headroom and slightly improved dynamic range, but it definitely wasn’t a night and day difference.
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