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#221888 - 09/21/08 04:05 PM Re: Denon 3808CI questions [Re: terzaghi]
Da_Gimp_Pimp Offline
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Registered: 06/23/07
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Is the trim setting only based on personal preference or do other variables come into play? My room is 20 x 24 x 7 with two rooms off the back wall and an open stairway and I currently have my 500 set to 7 o'clock and crossover to bypass. A gentleman at Axiom said that 7 o'clock sounds about right for the size of my room and recommended the trim to full, but I will experiment with the different trim settings before I run Audyssey again.
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#221935 - 09/21/08 09:52 PM Re: Denon 3808CI questions [Re: Da_Gimp_Pimp]
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Cam, sure personal preference is important, but yes, there's more involved. Contrary to some beliefs, the smaller the room the more the low bass area is boosted by room gain. This may result in the low bass being out of balance with the mid and upper bass and causing a boomy or excessively full effect. Axiom's Trim setting compensates for this by boosting the higher bass frequencies in relation to the lowest ones when the setting is Half or Full. In theory a very large room would give best results with the Flat setting, an average sized room maybe with the Half setting and smaller rooms with the Full setting. My room where I use the EP500 is slightly smaller than yours and I quickly found that the Full setting gave me the best bass balance. You should of course experiment and determine which setting gives you the best balance in your room rather than an unnaturally emphasized low bass.
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#222139 - 09/22/08 11:23 PM Re: Denon 3808CI questions [Re: JohnK]
demetman Offline
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Registered: 04/03/08
Posts: 72
Loc: NJ
Hi guys, I received my momoprice order today and was excited to have some time to play around with the 3808. I connected the 3808 with the HDMI cables and I am experiencing a problem. The Denon menu is showing on my tv screen but I can't get any tv channels. I actually had tv programming for a short period of time then the Denon menu took over. I couldn't find anything in the manual to CLEARLY get me through this step. I have a Sony Bravia 40" KDL-XBR4 and a Motorola DCH3200 HDMI cable box. I have an HDMI cable from the Sony TV HDMI 1 going to the Denon Monitor, then an HDMI from the Denon TV/cable to the Motorola's HDMI slot. Perhaps something is hooked up wrong? I tried every other HDMI option with no luck. Is there something I need to do in the menu screen to get the TV to display channels? Help is greatly appreciated. I have the day off tomorrow and will have time to play around with options. Thanks for any suggestions.

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#222143 - 09/22/08 11:28 PM Re: Denon 3808CI questions [Re: demetman]
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Registered: 04/04/07
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you should have the hdmi plug from the cable box plugged into one of the four hdmi ports labeled 1-4, and the hdmi cable going from the denon to the tv plugged into the "monitor out" hdmi port.

make sure that is correct and then try turning the knob on the denon to select the proper source.

I would run the auto setup after that. There should be decent directions for that in the manual.

You might need to manually adjust some of the input settings (such as assigning optical/coax audio with a particular input source (if using any copmponent cables), ect.
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#222161 - 09/22/08 11:58 PM Re: Denon 3808CI questions [Re: terzaghi]
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Registered: 04/03/08
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Loc: NJ
Yes, I do have the HDMI plug going from cable box to Denon HDMI port #3(cable/tv)and an HDMI cable from Denon MONITOR port to the TV HDMI #1 port. This seems correct because any other config yeilds nothing at all. I assigned the Denon to HDMI but can't get past the Denon menu on my TV screen. Any body have any luck contacting Denon customer support via phone for assistance during business hours? The manual does not list any support phone numbers,but I'm pretty sure the web site does. I did go through the Denon menu options thoroughly but that didn't seem to produce any results. If it makes a difference I am using a Tripplite HT1010SAT3 surge protector. I mention this only because I had to remove the cable wire and connect tirectly to the cable box to recieve the signal for my new HDMI box. After the signal was recieved I reconnected the cable to the surge protector. Thanks for the reply.

Demetrios
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#222165 - 09/23/08 12:15 AM Re: Denon 3808CI questions [Re: demetman]
terzaghi Offline
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Registered: 04/04/07
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Loc: Tulsa, Oklahoma
I would plug the cable into the cable box directly and use it that way.

I would reccomend calling denon very early, their wait times can get LONG as the day goes on.

Mess around with it some more and just keep posting questions here though. You'll get it all figured out soon enough!
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#222220 - 09/23/08 11:46 AM Re: Denon 3808CI questions [Re: terzaghi]
michael_d Offline
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Registered: 07/23/04
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Loc: Up yonder
Select the source and then go through the source video set up option menu. Make sure you have HDMI selected as input and make sure the video convert is turned on. I’m pretty sure this is where you find your solution….the video input settings. Just click around a bit and I’m certain the picture will miraculously appear.
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#222222 - 09/23/08 11:55 AM Re: Denon 3808CI questions [Re: michael_d]
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Registered: 12/26/03
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Loc: Calgary, Alberta
Follow mdrew's suggestion, the TV source is not set to HDMI but most likely set to Composite or component.
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#222268 - 09/23/08 02:52 PM Re: Denon 3808CI questions [Re: jakewash]
demetman Offline
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Registered: 04/03/08
Posts: 72
Loc: NJ
Thanks guys, we now have picture. I thought I originally selected HDMI through source options but after re-checking I found that composite was selected. It's going to take some time getting familiar with this receiver. Two remotes seems to complicate things even further.

While I'm here I might as well pick your brains some more. After making HDMI conections through the receiver and viewing HD content I feel my picture may be degraded as compared to previous coaxial cable connections. Through the research I have done, it seems that the Denon 3808 is not equiped with the best scaling processing chip. I have a Sony Bravia KDLXBR-4 40" LCD TV and was wondering If my picture quality would increase if I could disable scaling from the Denon? Do I have any options with the equipment I have without compromising audio signal quality. I don't have my Axiom's yet so I thought I would address picture quality first, then the HT system. Thanks for everyone's input.

Demetrios
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#222269 - 09/23/08 02:56 PM Re: Denon 3808CI questions [Re: demetman]
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Loc: Calgary, Alberta
Yes you can switch off the upscaling and run it in pass through mode, unfortunately I am unable to recall where that is done in the GUI.... Options comes to mind.
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