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#223285 - 10/01/08 05:35 PM Re: Emotiva's New Pre/Pro [Re: SatKartr]
cgolf Offline
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Registered: 03/14/05
Posts: 340
Loc: Cypress, Texas
M60s in front with a VP150 center and QS8s as surrounds. My sub is an HSU VTF3.

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#223287 - 10/01/08 05:59 PM Re: Emotiva's New Pre/Pro [Re: SirQuack]
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Registered: 07/26/06
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 Originally Posted By: sirquack
No Hut, why would you assume that, I was in conversation with SK


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#223292 - 10/01/08 06:04 PM Re: Emotiva's New Pre/Pro [Re: SirQuack]
SatKartr Offline
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Registered: 09/19/08
Posts: 608
Loc: Dallas
Good to know, thanks for the info. I know me and I know will be most likely be caught in a cycle of upgradeitis due to curiosity unless I get it out of my system now so I am shooting a little higher than necessary. Usually it works, the last "poor man's audiophile" stereo (store owner's terminology) I bought was around 1989 (i.e., amp and speakers unchanged) and I have been satisfied until now when our sd tv died and we upgraded to plasma hdtv.

I estimate with a cheap option like Emo or Outlaw at most it will cost less than $1k to go with separates over a good AVR and then I will never have to wonder and will anyway not even be able to afford to upgrade the amplification unless they come up with a killer must have feature like teleportation, so I can put that aspect of the project to rest and never have to think about amplification again for the next 5 to 10 or even 20 years, unless something breaks.

The other issue I have is that processors do require updating at times (e.g., I have a rotel cd player, an awesome sounding hk cd to cd recorder, a dvd player, dvd recorder, and now blu ray player, still don't even have an sacd player), so it irks me to pay a lot for a receiver with powerful amplification included that is costing me a lot when I may want to upgrade and then have to pay for the integrated amplification all over again when I could just upgrade the processor itself, that would actually wind up being an impediment to the upgrade path when the upgrade might actually make sense by allowing me to take advantage of all the latest formats and processing capabilities.

Thanks for the opportunity to think this through, I think that's the main point, if the processor is separate it will leave me more flexibility to upgrade as necessary without having to pay twice for powerful amplification without any added benefit other than for the manufacturer who will make more money.
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#223298 - 10/01/08 06:11 PM Re: Emotiva's New Pre/Pro [Re: cgolf]
SatKartr Offline
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Registered: 09/19/08
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Loc: Dallas
OK thanks, that leaves the question open: is anyone on the forum running the M80s with the XPA-5 or XPA-2 and having or not having good results?

Emo has a 30 day return policy too, guess it makes sense to wait until the M80s have shipped or are shipping to order the amp.
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#223299 - 10/01/08 06:17 PM Re: Emotiva's New Pre/Pro [Re: SatKartr]
Warrant Offline
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Registered: 10/12/07
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Buy the 997 and the 7900, (BTW the 7900 is the same amp as the Lexicon ZX7) then forget about upgraditis (Rx Emla creme) until the EP800 arrives.

Take two ep800's and call me in the morning.

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#223300 - 10/01/08 06:37 PM Re: Emotiva's New Pre/Pro [Re: Warrant]
SatKartr Offline
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Registered: 09/19/08
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Loc: Dallas
Sounds like a perfect prescription, except the 7900 would cost twice what the emo setup would cost and that definitely would propel me outside of my budget range, the 997 is exactly what I am afraid I am going to want even if I buy another processor but who knows when it will be available, their ETA appeared extremely soft.

Speaking of ETAs, are there any educated or uneducated guesses regarding when the EP800 might appear, given that we haven't even heard an official announcement from Axiom?
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#223308 - 10/01/08 07:08 PM Re: Emotiva's New Pre/Pro [Re: SirQuack]
SatKartr Offline
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Registered: 09/19/08
Posts: 608
Loc: Dallas
 Originally Posted By: sirquack
I have custom built Odyssey Khartago Extreme monoblocks just because of upgradeitis hit me. Amps amplify sound, they don't sound different. You will be able to play at much louder levels with no distress and have more headroom, however, most people don't listen that loud anyway, so AVR's are more than adequate for most people.

Rated power is not all that is important, people seem to get hung up on that, but I believe they are rated at 200watts each. Memory (capacitance), current delivery, damping factor, DC offset, toroid size, etc. to name a few are every bit as important.


OK I confess abject ignorance regarding most of the additional factors you cite beyond rated power, factors that clearly must be related to the sharp differences in cost among various amplifiers having the same power rating, but do you mean to imply that none of these additional factors come into play except at high volumes in terms of affecting the sound?
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#223312 - 10/01/08 07:12 PM Re: Emotiva's New Pre/Pro [Re: SatKartr]
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Registered: 02/03/08
Posts: 1898
Loc: Austin, TX
 Originally Posted By: SatKartr
Speaking of ETAs, are there any educated or uneducated guesses regarding when the EP800 might appear, given that we haven't even heard an official announcement from Axiom?


Within the next 2-3 weeks according to a new buyer who talked to Axiom support yesterday. Granted, that's second hand, but it's very recent info... looks like it's not going to be long.
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#223313 - 10/01/08 07:12 PM Re: Emotiva's New Pre/Pro [Re: myrison]
myrison Offline
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Registered: 02/03/08
Posts: 1898
Loc: Austin, TX
And by the way... I'm planning on getting in line early! \:\)
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#223326 - 10/01/08 07:32 PM Re: Emotiva's New Pre/Pro [Re: myrison]
SatKartr Offline
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Registered: 09/19/08
Posts: 608
Loc: Dallas
 Originally Posted By: myrison
Within the next 2-3 weeks according to a new buyer who talked to Axiom support yesterday. Granted, that's second hand, but it's very recent info... looks like it's not going to be long.


Now that's intriguing! I may wind up being happy I delayed the purchase!
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