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#230192 - 11/17/08 10:10 AM Denon 3808 questions.....
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Hey, all you 3808 owners! I have two questions... sorry about my ignorance!

Can the USB jack support a drive? In other words, if I took my external, USB drive full of MP3s to the receiver, can I play tracks directly? If so, do you get a display on-screen or on the receiver of track info and for navigation? (If not, I'll have to see of my XBox 360 or my HD TiVo will take a drive directly.... My Network here is non-existent).

I just read a test of a few receivers' Video Processing / Scaling capabilities (Home Theater Magazine Link) and it seems that the 3808 did pretty poorly. Yet, everyone here loves their 3808. Is it that the receiver's scaling and processing features don't count for much because the disc player is handling IT'S share, and the TiVo is handling IT'S share, etc., etc... and the 3808 is setup to just "pass it through"?

My Samsung DLP only has one HDMI input, and I'm not ready to replace EVERYTHING in one shot!!

I feel like I'm posting so many Noob questions lately.... but I've really gotten the urge to just get a Blu-Ray player over the Holidays (and therefore a new receiver also) ....
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#230195 - 11/17/08 10:59 AM Re: Denon 3808 questions..... [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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I don't think the USB jack can support a drive, I believe it states in the manual that a USB device can't be connected via another cable which would be required if it was a drive (as far as I know). I ran into the same thing when I was thinking about connecting my Seagate Freeagent Pro to my 3808.
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#230198 - 11/17/08 11:22 AM Re: Denon 3808 questions..... [Re: Da_Gimp_Pimp]
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Mark, I let my Toshiba XA-2 do all the upconverting on standard discs. It does a fine job, so I really felt no need to look for that feature in the receiver.
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#230199 - 11/17/08 11:23 AM Re: Denon 3808 questions..... [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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 Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson

Can the USB jack support a drive? In other words, if I took my external, USB drive full of MP3s to the receiver, can I play tracks directly? If so, do you get a display on-screen or on the receiver of track info and for navigation? (If not, I'll have to see of my XBox 360 or my HD TiVo will take a drive directly.... My Network here is non-existent).
If the drive can act as a mediastreamer on it's own, no other components required, then it would work, although I am thinking the drive should work anyway, as a USB key is just seen as a regular removeable drive, I will have to try it.

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I just read a test of a few receivers' Video Processing / Scaling capabilities (Home Theater Magazine Link) and it seems that the 3808 did pretty poorly. Yet, everyone here loves their 3808. Is it that the receiver's scaling and processing features don't count for much because the disc player is handling IT'S share, and the TiVo is handling IT'S share, etc., etc... and the 3808 is setup to just "pass it through"?
Thanks for the link, it has some good explanations of video. To answer your question, yes, as I had never planned on using the upscaling abilities and just use the DVD player to do all my upscaling or allow the TV to do its thing for SD sources.


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#230200 - 11/17/08 11:24 AM Re: Denon 3808 questions..... [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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 Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson
(If not, I'll have to see of my XBox 360 or my HD TiVo will take a drive directly.... My Network here is non-existent)


The 360 can take your external drive as long as it functions as a USB mass storage device, not requiring any special drivers.

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#230201 - 11/17/08 11:24 AM Re: Denon 3808 questions..... [Re: jakewash]
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I put some flac files on a 1 gig usb thumb drive and the denon played them fine... I assume a larger usb HD would be the same.
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#230208 - 11/17/08 11:41 AM Re: Denon 3808 questions..... [Re: terzaghi]
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Hmmmm.... the plot thickens.....
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#230237 - 11/17/08 02:26 PM Re: Denon 3808 questions..... [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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One thing that I really like about the 3808 is that it passes video without molesting it in any way, and, it has a terrific GUI. I’ve been using an external video processor for three years now and I want to feed it the cleanest digital signal possible. However, with BR and the latest batch of on board video processors that the newer displays are coming with, I’m finding less need for the VP. I will soon be using a JVC RS-20 projector and will be selling my VP. I think that you will most likely be in the same boat and find that you do not want the AVR to do anything with the video stream.
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#230259 - 11/17/08 04:20 PM Re: Denon 3808 questions..... [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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 Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson
Hey, all you 3808 owners! I have two questions... sorry about my ignorance!

Can the USB jack support a drive? In other words, if I took my external, USB drive full of MP3s to the receiver, can I play tracks directly? If so, do you get a display on-screen or on the receiver of track info and for navigation? (If not, I'll have to see of my XBox 360 or my HD TiVo will take a drive directly.... My Network here is non-existent).

I just read a test of a few receivers' Video Processing / Scaling capabilities (Home Theater Magazine Link) and it seems that the 3808 did pretty poorly. Yet, everyone here loves their 3808. Is it that the receiver's scaling and processing features don't count for much because the disc player is handling IT'S share, and the TiVo is handling IT'S share, etc., etc... and the 3808 is setup to just "pass it through"?

My Samsung DLP only has one HDMI input, and I'm not ready to replace EVERYTHING in one shot!!

I feel like I'm posting so many Noob questions lately.... but I've really gotten the urge to just get a Blu-Ray player over the Holidays (and therefore a new receiver also) ....


Mark:

If you just mean plugging in a flash drive into the USB on the 3808 and playing MP3 files than yes it can. I tried it and I'm sure it gives you an onscreen display of titles and tracks altough I haven't used that function for a while.
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#230260 - 11/17/08 04:22 PM Re: Denon 3808 questions..... [Re: michael_d]
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Just read the manual, and on page 18 it states" Do not use the extension cable for connecting the USB device to the USB port. Use of the extension cable may cause harmful interference.

A "thumb drive" will work as it is illustrated in the manual but an external hard drive like my Seagate which can only connect via an extension cable, not directly, won't work.
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