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#230359 - 11/18/08 08:44 AM Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's
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This really isn't a review yet, as I'm just starting to experiment. I dusted off my 80's Pioneer CS60 4-Way loudspeakers and placed them next to my M80's. The problem is that my 80's are hooked up to my Odyssey monoblock amps which are hooked to the Denon PreOuts. I've got my CS60's hooked up to the B channel from the front L/R on the Denon.

At this point the only way I can listen to just the CS60's is by unhooking the RCA cables from the back of Denon. I don't see a way to do this on the remote. I could hook the m80's back up to the A channel on the receiver I suppose and then go back/forth for comparison. Or, figure out some type of speaker selector?

At this point the Pioneers sound very very good. At first I was like, WoW, these sound as good as my m80's, could this be possible? I'll post the specs later on the CS60's when I find the manual. Off the top of my head, they have a 12-15" "Turbo" Woofer, 5" Midrange, Ribbon Tweeter, and also a Dome Tweeter with freq res. upto 40,000khz. I think they are rated at 150Watts max or something like that...


I was so suprised by the detail and fullness of my old buddies, I forgot about how nice of a lowww end they gave with the larger woofer.

So, any ideas on a cheap way to come up with a selector? I suppose Radio Shack or someone else would have such a item, looking for an inexpensive option.

This would also be nice if people every bring their speakers over for comparison...


Later, off to work I go...
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#230360 - 11/18/08 08:56 AM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: SirQuack]
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40,000Khz is very high indeed!
Unless you meant 40,000Hz or 40KHz... ;\)
Looking forward to your full report!
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#230378 - 11/18/08 11:14 AM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: EFalardeau]
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Mojo bought a simple 4 way speaker selector for our speaker comparisons, but I have been looking at something like this which will allow for volume correction due to sensitivity differences.
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#230382 - 11/18/08 11:19 AM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: jakewash]
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That sounds promising. It is always delicate to compare speakers that have different sensitivity.
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#230389 - 11/18/08 12:11 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: EFalardeau]
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I could tell a difference when I switched from the 8ohm pioneers to the 4ohm 80's, the volume was very different.
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#230393 - 11/18/08 12:25 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: SirQuack]
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That speaks volume!
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#230433 - 11/18/08 07:25 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: SirQuack]
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Looking forward to your comparison as well. Kind of nice to bring the old school stuff out just for fun. You know pics and specs are a must. ;\) Have fun reliving the old days and enjoying all the new.
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#230434 - 11/18/08 07:27 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: EFalardeau]
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With something like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Pro-Series-2-Way...%3A1|240%3A1318

you could just output the monoblocks to it, then output from the a/b box to your 2 sets of speakers. That way, they both get the amplification.
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#230456 - 11/18/08 10:29 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: SRoode]
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Wow, Steve that looks like a good deal. I may have to check into something like that...
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#230457 - 11/18/08 10:52 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: SirQuack]
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OK, first some clarification, my memory is not as good as it used to be, once I dug them out I realized they are CS-605s. \:\)

Here are some pics

Please disregard the orbs, as most of you know my place is haunted.



My like new 80s Pioneer CS-605s



Bring it on M80s....



Hey, those woofers look to be the same size.



And finally, my lonely EP600 in time out.


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