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#230359 - 11/18/08 08:44 AM Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's
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This really isn't a review yet, as I'm just starting to experiment. I dusted off my 80's Pioneer CS60 4-Way loudspeakers and placed them next to my M80's. The problem is that my 80's are hooked up to my Odyssey monoblock amps which are hooked to the Denon PreOuts. I've got my CS60's hooked up to the B channel from the front L/R on the Denon.

At this point the only way I can listen to just the CS60's is by unhooking the RCA cables from the back of Denon. I don't see a way to do this on the remote. I could hook the m80's back up to the A channel on the receiver I suppose and then go back/forth for comparison. Or, figure out some type of speaker selector?

At this point the Pioneers sound very very good. At first I was like, WoW, these sound as good as my m80's, could this be possible? I'll post the specs later on the CS60's when I find the manual. Off the top of my head, they have a 12-15" "Turbo" Woofer, 5" Midrange, Ribbon Tweeter, and also a Dome Tweeter with freq res. upto 40,000khz. I think they are rated at 150Watts max or something like that...


I was so suprised by the detail and fullness of my old buddies, I forgot about how nice of a lowww end they gave with the larger woofer.

So, any ideas on a cheap way to come up with a selector? I suppose Radio Shack or someone else would have such a item, looking for an inexpensive option.

This would also be nice if people every bring their speakers over for comparison...


Later, off to work I go...
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#230360 - 11/18/08 08:56 AM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: SirQuack]
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40,000Khz is very high indeed!
Unless you meant 40,000Hz or 40KHz... ;\)
Looking forward to your full report!
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#230378 - 11/18/08 11:14 AM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: EFalardeau]
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Mojo bought a simple 4 way speaker selector for our speaker comparisons, but I have been looking at something like this which will allow for volume correction due to sensitivity differences.
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#230382 - 11/18/08 11:19 AM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: jakewash]
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That sounds promising. It is always delicate to compare speakers that have different sensitivity.
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#230389 - 11/18/08 12:11 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: EFalardeau]
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I could tell a difference when I switched from the 8ohm pioneers to the 4ohm 80's, the volume was very different.
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#230393 - 11/18/08 12:25 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: SirQuack]
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That speaks volume!
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#230433 - 11/18/08 07:25 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: SirQuack]
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Looking forward to your comparison as well. Kind of nice to bring the old school stuff out just for fun. You know pics and specs are a must. ;\) Have fun reliving the old days and enjoying all the new.
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#230434 - 11/18/08 07:27 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: EFalardeau]
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With something like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Pro-Series-2-Way...%3A1|240%3A1318

you could just output the monoblocks to it, then output from the a/b box to your 2 sets of speakers. That way, they both get the amplification.
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#230456 - 11/18/08 10:29 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: SRoode]
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Wow, Steve that looks like a good deal. I may have to check into something like that...
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#230457 - 11/18/08 10:52 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: SirQuack]
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OK, first some clarification, my memory is not as good as it used to be, once I dug them out I realized they are CS-605s. \:\)

Here are some pics

Please disregard the orbs, as most of you know my place is haunted.



My like new 80s Pioneer CS-605s



Bring it on M80s....



Hey, those woofers look to be the same size.



And finally, my lonely EP600 in time out.


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#230483 - 11/19/08 12:29 AM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: SirQuack]
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OMFG!! Lego! \:\)
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#230487 - 11/19/08 12:34 AM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: SirQuack]
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Great pics! I LOVE vintage audio. I ran a set of dbPlus 990's for over 20 years (bought new in '87)!!! I only replaced them with my Axiom's about 3 months ago when my stereo system's priority shifted from 2 channel music listening to 5.1 movie listening. That's why I'm the 80'sMan!!! ;\)

Hardly wait for the results of your comparison.
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#230493 - 11/19/08 01:21 AM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: 80'sMan]
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What are the odds of the Pioneers' woofer surrounds holding together for this endeaver? ;\) My '78 vintage Precision Accoustics 10 inchers pretty much turned to dust around '97 or so.
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#230518 - 11/19/08 08:32 AM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: duckman]
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So far they have been cranking out some impressive detail and bass.. ;\)
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#230609 - 11/19/08 07:27 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: SirQuack]
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Glad to hear the foam surround has apparently not disappeared after all these years. Those big old 12 inch woofers sure can move some air. I would guess the M80's are nice and tight in the bass area though.
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#230612 - 11/19/08 07:30 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: merchman]
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All of the sudden, I feel like doing the Safety Dance...

Cool speakers!
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#230617 - 11/19/08 07:52 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: SRoode]
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Men without hats. Great old tune.
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#230618 - 11/19/08 07:56 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: merchman]
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 Originally Posted By: merchman
Men without hats. Great old tune.


You must be old
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#230619 - 11/19/08 08:00 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: merchman]
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I had a pair of Pioneer CS922A's coupled with a Pioneer SX-1080 receiver back in my old Army days, the speakers wore out a long time ago and I got rid of the receiver at a garage sale for like $25 ... wish I would have kept that receiver.

Cool stuff Randy.
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#230620 - 11/19/08 08:02 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: Wid]
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Thanks Wid
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#230621 - 11/19/08 08:06 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: merchman]
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 Originally Posted By: merchman
Thanks Wid


Yea but, you have to keep in mind that Men Without Hats is still about 10 years *after* Wid's prime listening days.

\:D
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#230622 - 11/19/08 08:07 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: RickF]
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That's why I kept my old Scott receiver and Carver amp. Wish I had my old Technic's to go with them but oh well... \:\( Only so much room for stuff.
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#230624 - 11/19/08 08:09 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: RickF]
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 Originally Posted By: merchman
Thanks Wid


Yea but, you have to keep in mind that Men Without Hats is still about 10 years *after* Wid's prime listening days.

\:D



Now that's cold OLD man \:\)
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#230625 - 11/19/08 08:10 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: Wid]
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#230627 - 11/19/08 08:12 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: Wid]
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Cold?? You want to talk about cold? It's supposed to be all the way down into the upper 40s here tonight.

I'm moving south.
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#230628 - 11/19/08 08:14 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: RickF]
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My wife was just down in Florida. She's moving there or south.
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#230630 - 11/19/08 08:15 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: RickF]
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Sissy ain't that right Ed.
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#230632 - 11/19/08 08:16 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: Wid]
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For sure, but I don't have to work in that cold weather like you do. ;\)
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#230636 - 11/19/08 08:20 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: merchman]
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Well someone has to do it \:\(
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#230638 - 11/19/08 08:30 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: Wid]
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You are the man my friend. \:\)
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#230646 - 11/19/08 08:52 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: merchman]
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Poor Rick. Never got to experience the pure pleasure of shovel sledding. ;\)
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#230648 - 11/19/08 08:54 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: fredk]
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Or sliding down a frozen hill on a lunch tray..........After a couple too many brewskis.
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#230649 - 11/19/08 08:56 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: merchman]
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Or skeeching on the back of a car \:D
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#230650 - 11/19/08 08:58 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: Wid]
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I'd still do that but my old legs and back might give out. Maybe this winter. \:D
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#230651 - 11/19/08 09:00 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: merchman]
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I wouldn't have any knees left
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#230653 - 11/19/08 09:01 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: Wid]
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You're old man
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#230654 - 11/19/08 09:03 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: merchman]
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My wife just said she would drive. I guess she figures the insurance might do her some good. \:\(
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#230655 - 11/19/08 09:03 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: merchman]
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This I know \:\(
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#230656 - 11/19/08 09:04 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: Wid]
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Tell her I'll do the driving if she splits the money \:\)
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#230657 - 11/19/08 09:06 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: Wid]
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Imagine seeing that on You tube.
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#230658 - 11/19/08 09:08 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: merchman]
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Could be brutal
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#230659 - 11/19/08 09:08 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: Wid]
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She says I'm worth more dead than alive. ;\) And what your address.
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#230660 - 11/19/08 09:11 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: merchman]
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I need yours, it snows more in Cheddarland than it does here.

So Randy hows the comparison going \:\)
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#230662 - 11/19/08 09:13 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: Wid]
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Randy...........Randy................Where are you?
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#230664 - 11/19/08 09:17 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: Wid]
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Last year it did snow way too much. My wife wants to know where to send to check when I'm gone. She seems serious. \:\( Perhaps I better snuggle more.
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#230667 - 11/19/08 09:28 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: merchman]
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That couldn't hurt, neither would a diamond
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#230671 - 11/19/08 09:47 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: Wid]
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#230674 - 11/19/08 10:19 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: merchman]
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Sorry guys, just got done with an audition.... went pretty well.
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#230688 - 11/19/08 11:09 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: SRoode]
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 Originally Posted By: SRoode
All of the sudden, I feel like doing the Safety Dance...


That song is one of the few with videos in Dance Dance Revolution Ultramix 2. Man, I'm hating that game so much these days, as my dance pad is in a limbo state between life and death.

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#230691 - 11/19/08 11:30 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: SirQuack]
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 Originally Posted By: sirquack
Sorry guys, just got done with an audition.... went pretty well.
Did he make you an offer on your Pioneer's? \:\)
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#230693 - 11/19/08 11:38 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: jakewash]
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Not letting those gems go, lots of memories.... I think another Axiom purchase may come soon.
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#230725 - 11/20/08 08:20 AM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: SirQuack]
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A purchase from you or the "auditionee" ? (or both!?) \:D
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#232601 - 12/03/08 07:44 AM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: myrison]
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So, Mr. Quack, any chance to compare the 2 sets of boxes yet?
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#232617 - 12/03/08 10:14 AM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: Spoiler]
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I had the Pioneer's hooked up to the B channel of my Denon for a couple of days prior to my last audition.

Without the purchase of an AB selector it was a little difficult to transparently switch back/forth as the levels were off due to the ohm difference.

Anyway, I was very impressed with my old Pioneers. Personally, I thought the detail was right up there with the m80's. Also, they may have had a bit more in the bass category compared to the 80's with no sub on, due to the 15" turbo woofers. Throwing the sub in the equation it was a toss up. I had more overall bass presence with the 605's because of the additional air movement of the 2 extra 12" woofers added to my 3 subs.

I also played around a little with small/large settings on the receiver to pump out more bass to the loudspeakers and they handled it well with no strain.

Honestly, I was very impressed with the sound I was hearing, maybe I should sell my 80's. Just kidding. \:\) I can say I won't be selling my old Pioneers anytime soon, just what to do with them?

I do have an old JVC pro logic receiver I could use it for 2 channel music listening with my 605's..
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#232688 - 12/03/08 06:32 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: SirQuack]
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I think you should dig out the old receiver and keep those old pioneers live and kicking. Glad to hear they still stand up to new technology. Wish I had kept some of my old speakers for comparisons.
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#232694 - 12/03/08 06:47 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: merchman]
Wid Offline
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Right now you wish you had your new speakers \:\)
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#232698 - 12/03/08 07:07 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: Wid]
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Sure do Rick. Thanks for reminding me.
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#232699 - 12/03/08 07:14 PM Re: Axiom 80s versus 80's Pioneer CS60's [Re: merchman]
Wid Offline
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\:D
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