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#241147 - 01/18/09 10:14 AM ..WHAT DO I DO--M22 OR M50
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I want new fronts but unsure which ones..by the time I buy the stands for the m22 its almost the price of the 50's..whats the main difference between the 2. Im using 15 yrs old Panasonics now with a large bass,a tweeter and midrange in it. I also have a VP100 center and QS4 sides and a yamaha sub..in about a 400sq ft room..thanks for your advice.Tom

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#241149 - 01/18/09 10:27 AM Re: ..WHAT DO I DO--M22 OR M50 [Re: oldlamps]
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It is my understanding that the m22's are much more detailed than the m50's. I think the general opinion from most board members is to stick with the m60's or m80's when buying towers. I know several people on here really love the m22's.

However, with the m22 you will want to consider a sub such as an ep350.

if you order from the factory outlet you can save an extra 10% too, so maybe that would help you if you decided to go with the m60's instead.
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#241151 - 01/18/09 10:29 AM Re: ..WHAT DO I DO--M22 OR M50 [Re: terzaghi]
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Hmmm..not sure what you mean by more detailed..I dont think I could swing the 60's but maybe the 50's.

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#241154 - 01/18/09 10:53 AM Re: ..WHAT DO I DO--M22 OR M50 [Re: oldlamps]
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Consider going thru the factory outlet, this brings the price of the M60s closer to the 50s (unless you use the outlet on the 50s also). I agree, about the stands, this goes for many manufacturers out there...buying smaller speakers in an effort to save doesn't really make too much sense if you have to buy stands as well, and the footprint remains the same. \:\)
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#241155 - 01/18/09 11:03 AM Re: ..WHAT DO I DO--M22 OR M50 [Re: Adrian]
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What do I gain from the 60's over the 50's and the 50's over the m22..thanks,Tom

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#241160 - 01/18/09 11:10 AM Re: ..WHAT DO I DO--M22 OR M50 [Re: oldlamps]
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Hi OldLamps,

The bulk of musical instrument harmonic content lies in the midrange, where, incidentally, human hearing is also the most sensitive. Speakers like the M22s that have lots of midrange detail means you'll hear the pluck of acoustic guitar strings, the sibilants of singers' "sss" and "ttt" sounds (those can be exaggerated if the original CD has been goosed in the mids for airplay)---more detailed speakers also tend to have a greater sense of spaciousness with live or hall recordings.

The M50s are very pleasant but in that midrange area are slightly softer (duller) than the M22s. If you listen to cymbals on an M22 and switch to the M50, the cymbals are a bit less clear. But these subtle differences are really only easily noticeable on instantaneous A/B comparisons with a switcher.

The virtues of using a satellite "bookshelf" size speaker with a subwoofer include easier placement. You can actually put them on a shelf, close to the wall behind. You can even wall-mount them if you wish. With floorstanding speakers, sometimes putting them too close to a wall or corner will result in exaggerated or boomy bass. Since bookshelf size speakers don't have much bass response, that isn't a problem. The subwoofer reproduces the deep bass.

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Alan
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#241165 - 01/18/09 11:19 AM Re: ..WHAT DO I DO--M22 OR M50 [Re: alan]
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Thanks for the info..will the m22 reproduce bass at all or will it be the all with the sub,Tom

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#241166 - 01/18/09 11:26 AM Re: ..WHAT DO I DO--M22 OR M50 [Re: oldlamps]
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They'll reproduce bass down to 60Hz, according to specs, but you'll probably want the sub to do the work below 80Hz or so.
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#241167 - 01/18/09 11:37 AM Re: ..WHAT DO I DO--M22 OR M50 [Re: Ken.C]
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Interesting....theres alot of info here and im a little ignorant on all the sound terms. Since my speakers will be near a wall im thinking that the M22 with my current sub will be fine. I sit approx 8-10' away from them so maybe the towers will be to overwelming

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#241170 - 01/18/09 11:46 AM Re: ..WHAT DO I DO--M22 OR M50 [Re: oldlamps]
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Nah, I've used M50s and M80s that close without issue. It's all a matter of where you set the volume knob.
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