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#248488 - 02/22/09 11:33 PM Outlaw and Emotiva products...?
Animal Offline
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Registered: 02/22/09
Posts: 10
Loc: Laval, Qc
Hello everyone,
I just started to look for a HT and music system to replace my old stereo components. I am interrested by the Outlaw 990 and 7125 amp and also by the Emotiva UMC-1 (to come) and XPA-5 amp. Does anyone have any experience or comments on those products? The reviews on the net look good so far. I like the idea to buy directly from the company hoping to get more for the same amount of money spent...
Also, does anyone have comments on Oppo dvd players?
Thanks!!

(What I have actually: Arcam Delta90, Pierre-Étienne Léon M2, Cambridge Audio CD4 special edition, Audio Refinement receiver)

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#248521 - 02/23/09 10:25 AM Re: Outlaw and Emotiva products...? [Re: Animal]
casey01 Offline
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Registered: 07/03/08
Posts: 768
Loc: Toronto
I think I can speak with "some" authority on these products. Emotiva, Outlaw AND Oppo represent unprecedented quality and value for their products. I have Outlaw power amps and subs, an Oppo 980 DVD player(I am waiting for their new BDP 83 Blu-Ray machine) and I am probably going to purchase the new Emotiva UMC-1 pre-pro. I am going this route only because it will probably come to market sooner than the new Outlaw 997 and the UMC-1 will be considerably less expensive since the Outlaw 997 is the pre-pro version of the "flagship" Sherwood-Newcastle 972 recvr. that Axiom will probably offer for sale when it becomes available.

As you can see for some time now I have chosen to go the pre-pro, power amp route because it offers considerable more flexibility and longevity.

Axiom, Emotiva, Outlaw and Oppo all offer great products at great prices with great warranties and unprecedented customer service. You can be assured when you buy their product and you have a question, there will be a person at the other end of the line, unlike most retailers, that actually knows what they are talking about. I can assure you also, that I don't work for any of these companies. So don't worry, with complete 30 day money back guarantees with all of the above, go for it!

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#248541 - 02/23/09 11:35 AM Re: Outlaw and Emotiva products...? [Re: casey01]
tomtuttle Offline
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Registered: 06/20/03
Posts: 8290
Loc: Tacoma
Animal, there have been MANY threads on each of these companies here on the Axiom forums. Most people (including me) love the Oppo products. Some individuals have had very significant problems with Emotiva amps, some have been completely satisfied.
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#248552 - 02/23/09 12:31 PM Re: Outlaw and Emotiva products...? [Re: casey01]
icehawk21 Offline
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Registered: 04/23/06
Posts: 93
I can also attest to some of these products as I own some of what you are considering purchasing - the Outlaw 990/7125 combination and an older Oppo DVD player (971).

I don't hesitate to recommend these products. The 990 is a very adept processor, providing all of the non-lossless Dolby/DTS/ProLogic formats. It's easy to set up and offers fairly comprehensive bass management for setting up your speakers/subwoofers. The 7125 provides more than enough power for my M60/VP150/QS8 setup and the combination provides good sound quality.

I'd also rate Outlaw's customer service top-notch. Shortly after purchasing the 990/7125, my home builder's A/V installer blew my 7125 amp when repairing some in-wall speaker runs. Outlaw replaced the amp with a B-stock amplifier free of charge (with the exception of shipping charges - to be expected). Although it was my fault the amp was damaged, they were very accommodating and went beyond my expectations in replacing it for free.

The Oppo DVD player is a great up-converting player. Picture quality is outstanding. Can't speak to their customer service as I haven't had any issue requiring their attention. As far as value/bang-for-buck DVD players, I don't think Oppo can be beat.

Some thoughts, however....

The Outlaw 990 does not provide the latest HDMI spec nor does it offer the latest lossless audio formats. If you are considering upgrading to components that can support full HD video/audio then I'd consider waiting until the 997 comes out.

Alternatively, you could also wait until Axiom carries the Sherwood Newcastle R-972. This would be very similar to the Outlaw 997 but would include an amplifier section.

Additionally, you may want to wait until Oppo offers their new BDP-83 universal blu-ray player. It may be the only DVD player you'll require.

Good luck!

Bryan

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#248560 - 02/23/09 12:57 PM Re: Outlaw and Emotiva products...? [Re: icehawk21]
ClubNeon Offline
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Registered: 02/06/09
Posts: 3448
Loc: Western Maryland, USA
There are a lot of people waiting to pair an Outlaw 997 with the Oppo BDP-83.
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#248565 - 02/23/09 01:28 PM Re: Outlaw and Emotiva products...? [Re: ClubNeon]
tomtuttle Offline
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Registered: 06/20/03
Posts: 8290
Loc: Tacoma
People with more money than I have \:\(
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#248566 - 02/23/09 01:38 PM Re: Outlaw and Emotiva products...? [Re: tomtuttle]
ClubNeon Offline
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Registered: 02/06/09
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Loc: Western Maryland, USA
Upon hearing what I spend on any of my various hobbies, the statement often comes, "you have more money than I do." To which I reply, "no, didn't you just hear what I spent? I don't have any money left."
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#248597 - 02/23/09 03:50 PM Re: Outlaw and Emotiva products...? [Re: ClubNeon]
Animal Offline
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Registered: 02/22/09
Posts: 10
Loc: Laval, Qc
Hi again,
Thanks to you all, I really appreciate your reply and comments.
I agree that separate components are more flexible which is why I am looking that way. I want to invest for a long term.
Is there a search engine in the forum? I would like to research more on Emotiva products because, between Outlaw and them, I prefer their design and look. So, if I can have both quality and design that I like... Why not! I am a little bit concern with the post of Tomtuttle. I would like to go further.
Thanks again!
Marc

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#248599 - 02/23/09 03:57 PM Re: Outlaw and Emotiva products...? [Re: Animal]
ClubNeon Offline
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Registered: 02/06/09
Posts: 3448
Loc: Western Maryland, USA
There's a Google custom search under The Water Cooler board. The only thread it returns for "emotive" is: http://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=240472

But I think that's the one that covers the discussion you want.
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#248600 - 02/23/09 04:05 PM Re: Outlaw and Emotiva products...? [Re: ClubNeon]
Ken.C Online   content
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Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 17781
Loc: NoVA
Probably because you're searching on "emotive" instead of "emotiva"
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