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#253698 - 03/25/09 04:38 PM M22 full range roll off with Sub
Hutzal Offline
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Hey guys,

Just a quick question. I am planning using the M22s for studio monitors, and was wondering if you guys could confirm my thoughts.

I am going to be using a monitor switching device, have the M22s on A and the EP400 (or EP350) on B. I want to be able to run the M22s full range, and also add the sub for mixing. Basically I want to be able to switch between the M22s only, full range, and then add the sub to the M22s. Would I be able to let the M22s roll off naturally, and not cross them over to the sub with a hard cross over? The sub will be filtered at 80hz, but the M22s will be full range. Would using 60hz on the sub provide a better mix? I am worried about the 60-80hz range having a hump since the M22s are responsive down to 60hz and if the Sub is filtered at 80hz, both the sub and the M22s will be playing the 60-80hz range.

I hope I make sense, I have been researching this for weeks, and just wondering what you guys think.
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#253704 - 03/25/09 05:01 PM Re: M22 full range roll off with Sub [Re: Hutzal]
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I think that - by using the crossover on the sub - you could make it work.

You could run some sweeps with both the M22 and EP400 on and adjust the sub crossover until you get it blended to your taste.
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#253707 - 03/25/09 05:07 PM Re: M22 full range roll off with Sub [Re: tomtuttle]
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I guess I need to try REW with the M22's set to large and the sub crossover set to 80 or 60 and I will let you know. Now I just need the time to try it.
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#253708 - 03/25/09 05:13 PM Re: M22 full range roll off with Sub [Re: jakewash]
Hutzal Offline
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REW? Jason, that would be great if you could try it out for me and give me your impressions. I don't want to cut off the M22s as I want to be able to use them as full range for mixing, and combine them with a sub on and off while mixing.

So when I run the sweeps I would be looking for the flatest response DB wise through the crossover right?
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#253812 - 03/26/09 12:51 PM Re: M22 full range roll off with Sub [Re: Hutzal]
Hutzal Offline
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Also guys, do you know if I use the High Level inputs on the sub, will that degrade the sound quality to the M22s?
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#253817 - 03/26/09 01:24 PM Re: M22 full range roll off with Sub [Re: Hutzal]
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Another one, I am noticing there is only one XLR input on the DSP subs, I need a L/R input for both channels into one sub, I really cannot believe that axiom doesn't have L/R inputs with RCA, and L/R inputs for XLR...that may be the deal breaker for me, I really want to get axiom but I am not sure I'll be able to.
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#253824 - 03/26/09 02:04 PM Re: M22 full range roll off with Sub [Re: Hutzal]
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There's a left and right channel for subs?
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#253825 - 03/26/09 02:08 PM Re: M22 full range roll off with Sub [Re: onn]
Hutzal Offline
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there is when its in studio use, 2 channels, 2 monitors, two outputs that need to goto one sub (via balanced or unbalanced).
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#253827 - 03/26/09 02:12 PM Re: M22 full range roll off with Sub [Re: Hutzal]
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I'm curious. Why the need for two outputs for studio use?
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#253865 - 03/26/09 06:17 PM Re: M22 full range roll off with Sub [Re: CV]
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Two outputs, why not use 2 subs?
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