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#257163 - 04/17/09 08:29 AM Re: Denon 5308 vs. Rotel 1570/1575 [Re: FordPrefect]
terzaghi Offline
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Registered: 04/04/07
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\:\)
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#257280 - 04/18/09 02:16 PM Re: Denon 5308 vs. Rotel 1570/1575 [Re: JohnK]
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Registered: 12/08/08
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 Originally Posted By: JohnK
Charles, when someone gets a "ball rolling" my tendency is to want to pick it up and demolish it so that it can never roll again.


Hey, I was just opening the door for you and saving you one hyperlink. I'm learning. At some point I'm going to get a decent amp in my room and do some testing. Until then, I rest comfortably knowing there should be little improvement, if any.
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#257342 - 04/18/09 10:30 PM Re: Denon 5308 vs. Rotel 1570/1575 [Re: Zimm]
Wid Offline
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Registered: 06/22/03
Posts: 6720
Loc: The Peoples Republic of Il.
 Quote:
Hey, I was just opening the door for you and saving you one hyperlink. I'm learning. At some point I'm going to get a decent amp in my room and do some testing. Until then, I rest comfortably knowing there should be little improvement, if any.


You just keep believing that ;\)
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#257346 - 04/18/09 10:38 PM Re: Denon 5308 vs. Rotel 1570/1575 [Re: Zimm]
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Registered: 05/08/06
Posts: 90
Loc: Utah
Sorry PSpee and guys, I know the word sound to make a point was a bad choice of words. So I will try again, The best way to put it is base management, detail, and imaging. I know that the x-over in a speaker doesn't care if it is a watt from rotel or denon. It only cares if it is getting enough power, to little or to much power it cares. Yes the x-over gives the speaker its sound. The only reason I made the analogy of the Anthem and the Rotel with the same amps and the same speakers, was to point out the difference in the base management, detail, and imaging. With the Anthem I had to turn down the sub volume on the sub, it was set different with the Rotel. Watching movies the way each unit imaged was different. The other thing I could listen to the speakers louder with the Anthem than the Rotel. I guess you could chalk that up to the signal path of the Anthem. So PSpee if you want to future proof your system seperates are not a bad way to go, plus you would not have to worry about the M80's dropping down to what ever ohm load. Zimm you could add an amp to your 3808 and your right your speakers would not sound a bit different, base management, detail, and imaging would all be the same, because it is the same control unit. That amp would get you closer to getting some seperates. The one thing that you would have to change is to put that amp on it's own electrical circuit. Like I said sorry that I opened up them worms. Happy hunting PSpee.
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#257347 - 04/18/09 10:41 PM Re: Denon 5308 vs. Rotel 1570/1575 [Re: Gieseman]
Wid Offline
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Registered: 06/22/03
Posts: 6720
Loc: The Peoples Republic of Il.

I mean no disrespect but the word is bass not base.
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#257350 - 04/18/09 10:44 PM Re: Denon 5308 vs. Rotel 1570/1575 [Re: Wid]
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Loc: Utah
Right on, I should of used spell check.
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#257351 - 04/18/09 10:45 PM Re: Denon 5308 vs. Rotel 1570/1575 [Re: Gieseman]
fredk Offline
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Registered: 12/06/07
Posts: 7055
Loc: Canada
Its nice to see someone lets the worms out for a walk crawl now and then. Its cramped in them thar cans.
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#257352 - 04/18/09 10:45 PM Re: Denon 5308 vs. Rotel 1570/1575 [Re: Wid]
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Registered: 02/26/05
Posts: 5210
Loc: Vero Beach, Florida
So the basis of your point is...?

\:D
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#257353 - 04/18/09 10:47 PM Re: Denon 5308 vs. Rotel 1570/1575 [Re: RickF]
RickF Offline
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Registered: 02/26/05
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Gieseman ... no need to worry, not all of us are anti-separates. \:\)
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#257355 - 04/18/09 10:49 PM Re: Denon 5308 vs. Rotel 1570/1575 [Re: RickF]
fredk Offline
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Loc: Canada
Just anti 'leave the nice man alone and let him post.'
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