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#260536 - 05/16/09 01:46 AM Re: reference level headphones [Re: Stormin]
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Registered: 12/16/05
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 Originally Posted By: Stormin
I have a pair of Grado RS1's and love them for all sorts of music. They're great for rock, blues and classical although I've never done a direct comparison to Senn's I can't imagine being disappointed with them for any type of music. I've got a nice set of 3rd party circumaural pads that make them alot more comfortable and to my ear really improve the sound. Paired to a headfi amp this has been my listening station for the last few years... soon to be replaced by my yet-to-be-delivered axiom setup. Although I'll actually keep my listening station in my office for unobtrusive listening sessions \:\)


The RS1's are a bit of a different animal...once you get up in higher end grados they get a lot more balance to them. I wouldn't mind owning RS1's eventually, or their counterpart Alessandro MS Pro's.

Never give up on headphones, you'll never get the detail and intimacy with your music unless you drop tons and tons more on a speaker setup.
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#260615 - 05/17/09 09:27 AM Re: reference level headphones [Re: danmagicman7]
Stormin Offline
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Registered: 03/21/09
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I also have a pair of sr60's which make amazing sound for their price. The open design allows for impressive bass but unfortunately also makes them awkward to use in public. Hurt the ears after long listening sessions as well. Toyed with buying the GS1000's but figured I was content with the RS1's and many reviewers actually didn't like the sound of the GS1000's vs. the RS1's so I never pulled the trigger.
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#260631 - 05/17/09 03:41 PM Re: reference level headphones [Re: Stormin]
danmagicman7 Offline
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Yeah, SR60's are decent. The highs are way too sharp for my tastes though.
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#260633 - 05/17/09 03:50 PM Re: reference level headphones [Re: danmagicman7]
Wid Offline
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Registered: 06/22/03
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Loc: The Peoples Republic of Il.

I'm surprised with that Dan. Seeing how you like Axiom I figured you would like them. I feel Grado gives the most Axiom like sound that I have heard. I doubt I've listen to as many different types, styles, models as you but I have heard my share.
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#260634 - 05/17/09 04:12 PM Re: reference level headphones [Re: Wid]
BlueJays1 Offline
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Registered: 09/19/08
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I have to agree with you wid. The sonic signature of my Allesandro MS1 ( which are part of the Grado family) would lean more to the Axiom sound than the Sennheiser headphones I have listened to which had a very noticable laid back quality to them.
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#260738 - 05/18/09 10:10 PM Re: reference level headphones [Re: BlueJays1]
Stormin Offline
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Registered: 03/21/09
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I'm liking the comparison between Grado and Axiom as I like the Grado sound... excited for the delivery notice.
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#260752 - 05/19/09 01:46 AM Re: reference level headphones [Re: Stormin]
danmagicman7 Offline
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Registered: 12/16/05
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To be honest, I haven't listened to my axioms in a long time, since my current dorm room setup does not allow room. With a 30 gallon fish tank and a ton of other stuff...yea.

I've just grown to really like my senns a lot. With a good tube amp, they are just awesome. A lot of the current music I'm listening to is just more suited for senns.

In addition, while the Grado "sound" may be very close to the axiom neutrality in the highs and midrange, the bass is a bit lacking, leaving a sound that doesn't have as much body as the senns. My Axiom setup has a sub, so that takes care of the low end.

My listening preferences change too....just grown to favor what the senns have to offer. I still love the Grados for rock.
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#260760 - 05/19/09 04:19 AM Re: reference level headphones [Re: danmagicman7]
grunt Offline
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Registered: 12/04/06
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I really loved the sound of my sennheisers when I was stuck in a small bedroom but I still prefer the more 3D soundstage the Axioms produce. I never tried the Grados because I can’t stand anything except Circumaural headphones.
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#260780 - 05/19/09 11:57 AM Re: reference level headphones [Re: grunt]
Golden Offline
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Registered: 04/28/09
Posts: 138
Loc: Baltimore, MD
So the obvious next question, now that I am hooked, is what beginner level amp would you all suggest? In the $200-300 range, if that exists.

Thoughts?
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#260790 - 05/19/09 01:19 PM Re: reference level headphones [Re: Golden]
EFalardeau Offline
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Registered: 08/27/07
Posts: 3270
Loc: Laval, Quebec, Canada
For my HD-650, I am using a LittleDot Mk V.
For my PXC-250 (also 300Ohm) [used with iPod], I am using a LittleDot Mk I.
Both are solid states.

They are both bringing all the dynamics that they high-impedence headphones loses. I have also used by Mk V as pre-amp for my Audiobytes with great (and unexpected) success.
The Mk V is about 320$ (shipped) to US and Canada while the Mk I+ (better version of Mk I) is 180$ (shipped).

They also have a lot of tube models.

I have not experimented with a lot of different headamps, but theses exceeded my expectations and I have beed very happy with them for the past 4 months and not considering anything else.
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