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#274818 - 10/13/09 08:09 AM Re: Windows 7 PC Build [Re: fredk]
Murph Offline
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Registered: 10/05/06
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Sounds like you are in for a fun project. There is nothing like the first few seconds of anticipation before you turn on the power for the first time. Will it work, or did that wire belong on pins 3&4 instead of 4&5?

Then the bliss as you don't smell smoke.
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#274842 - 10/13/09 12:17 PM Re: Windows 7 PC Build [Re: CV]
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 Originally Posted By: CV
Cam, the Prolimatech Megahalems sounds pretty cool. It may be the way to go, but there's definitely no way it would fit in the Antec P193 case I was looking at. Does anyone know of a quiet case that is roomy enough for a cooler like this, as well as whatever giant video card I end up with?


Charles, the width of the P193 is identical to that of my Antec 900 so it will fit. Also, this guy has the P193 and Prolimatech Megahalems.
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#274845 - 10/13/09 01:03 PM Re: Windows 7 PC Build [Re: Da_Gimp_Pimp]
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Are you sure he didn't have to modify it? From all of the comments I was reading, the mobo tray is elevated, and the fan on the side intrudes into the case a bit, giving a maximum of around 140mm for a CPU cooler, where the Megalahems are at 158mm?
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#274856 - 10/13/09 02:00 PM Re: Windows 7 PC Build [Re: CV]
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I will message him, I am a member of that site.
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#274863 - 10/13/09 02:32 PM Re: Windows 7 PC Build [Re: fredk]
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ATI is making some great new GPUs at wicked price points. They are not the rock stars their $800 dollar+, top of the line cards are but for starting at $160, they are pretty wicked at that price point..

I had trouble finding a review that actually tested more than playing a video game or two but Tom's hardware is always good for the latest hardware reviews and providing the bad with the good.

ATI Radeon HD5770 and 5750

Caveat: I haven't seriously compared cards in a couple of yyears, I just happened to see the specs on these somewhere and was surprised by the price point.
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#274873 - 10/13/09 03:43 PM Re: Windows 7 PC Build [Re: Murph]
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Unfortunately I'm not a member of that site, but I did find another post here , by the same person. If you read through, someone inquires about the heatsink in that case and he says that there is about 2 mm of space. It's also an extremely tight fit in my case; millimeters as he is saying.

I have called Antec a couple times and their customer service is pretty decent. You could always give them a call and inquire, it's your safest bet.


Edited by wheelz999 (10/13/09 03:47 PM)
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#274903 - 10/13/09 07:54 PM Re: Windows 7 PC Build [Re: Ken.C]
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 Originally Posted By: kcarlile
I've not been impressed with Zalman products in the past, I have to say. They're almost never as silent as everyone claims, since the silence comes at the expense of heat. And even when it's making noise, they still don't seem to cool all that well.

Some of their products have been hit and miss, i agree. Stick with the reviews though and find the gems that really work well.
The Zalman CNPS####X... (dumb long and incomprehensible item labels) copper fin cpu heatsink was a huge contender for best, most quiet HSF for some time. Granted the thing was the size of a Chinese water lily and weighed as much as my dog's lower torso, but one didn't need a high speed fan to dissipate heat.
It was a good design which oddly didn't work so well with some of their other product iterations.
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#275006 - 10/14/09 04:03 PM Re: Windows 7 PC Build [Re: chesseroo]
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Chris (Club Neon) walked me through my first full computer build. Many long work days later, it keeps ripping without a flaw. (Just knocked on wood!) It screams, is stable, and runs semi-intense CAD/CAM/FEA 2d/3d without a hickup.

Vital Stats:
SuperMicro Barebone Tower/4U S-1366 for i7 CPUs (Good layout, but short wires on optical drive section.)
Radeon HD 4870x2 2GB GDDR5 (Screams, but make sure you have enough power for it.)
Intel 920 i7 CPU (Great chip, check Tom's Hardware to see it keeps up with many of the overclocked models in real world tests.)
12 GB RAM (4x4x4) (Keep the tripple memory path in mind when budgeting - can't do 8 easily.)
Vista Ultimate 64-bit
4 TB Seagate Cuda Drives (Raid 1 x 2) [Suitably fast and big so far - and cheap now!)
2 23" Samsung LCDs (Too damn wide, but good for most applics.)
850 Watt Power supply (Lacked on 8 pin needed for the beast from Radeon! Made for a pain in the arse.)
Pioneer Blu-Ray burner (Plays BR movies smoth, and burns disks fast.)
Wacom Intuos4 graphics tablet (Cool!)
6 or 7 cooling fans (better have a good A/C path as the heat from this beast is a factor in a small office.)
Oh, and a Lexmark X9575 Wireless MFP - which kinda sucks for the price.
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#275013 - 10/14/09 04:44 PM Re: Windows 7 PC Build [Re: Zimm]
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That's a really nice build Zimm. What speed is your CPU running at, and is it stock or have you overclocked yet?
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#275046 - 10/14/09 11:53 PM Re: Windows 7 PC Build [Re: Da_Gimp_Pimp]
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Registered: 04/04/07
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Loc: Tulsa, Oklahoma
Question:

My current desktop is 2-3 years and is pretty basic, but does what I need it to and runs pretty smooth. It currently is running window xp. Should I consider upgrading to windows 7 (it will be free through my school)

My computer is an 800 mhz pentium4 3.2 GHz processor, 4 GB of ram, and a built in 256 MB intel graphics media accelerator video card.

My wifes laptop is running vista and is about a year old. It also has 4 gigs of ram (I think.. maybe only 3 I'd have to check), a similar built in video card, but has a faster core 2 duo 2.something GHz processor. Perhaps I should put Windows 7 on this guy?

Any comments from anyone who ran windows 7 in beta mode and can compare it to vista or xp out there? Based on my computer specs would you suggest an OS upgrade?
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