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#274726 - 10/12/09 11:33 AM Re: Windows 7 PC Build [Re: fredk]
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Driver quirks don't cause motherboard beeps. Sounds like a poorly constructed card. Also, if the fan is dying, that could cause many of those errors.

All in all, I'd say that problems with video cards have more to do with the card manufacturers than the GPU makers, barring major driver problems--which I've sen with both the green team and the red team.
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#274727 - 10/12/09 11:34 AM Re: Windows 7 PC Build [Re: fredk]
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 Originally Posted By: fredk
Chess. Is it driver quirks on the ATI card then? I am looking at one of the new lower end 5 series cards to bitstream bluray in my HTPC. I will probably wait a few months for the [major] bugs to get ironed out though.

Possibly though i have updated drivers twice since having the card and nothing has changed, or possibly a quirk with the BIOS and this particular m/b.
I've never had this issue in the past, though other, similarly baffling things, but only with ATI cards.
Their performance when running is on par with what you read in reviews, but their glitches all around are many.
Searches on the net typically find patches, workarounds, etc. but i ask why i have to do that in the first place.

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I love my Corsair ps. It is unbelievably quiet and the cabling is very nicely wrapped. The only thing that would make my psu nicer is detachable cables so I could remove the uneeded cables. I think they do that in the bigger supplies (mine is only 450W).

The Corsair HX series all have detachable cables. The power cables are a bit of a stiff plastic sheathing though. I wish it was a bit nicer of material, higher quality, easier to bend.
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#274728 - 10/12/09 11:38 AM Re: Windows 7 PC Build [Re: Ken.C]
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 Originally Posted By: kcarlile
Driver quirks don't cause motherboard beeps. Sounds like a poorly constructed card. Also, if the fan is dying, that could cause many of those errors.

The fan is sounding ugly, but spinning ok.
I will be replacing it soon (have to buy another after market gpu cooler again).
However, on shutdown or standby, driver issues could cause a lock in the vidcard hardware providing such a problem.
That lock could remain through a warm reboot and hence why clearing the problem can only be done through a cold reboot.

But i do agree it is more likely an issue with the hardware (card itself or incompatibility with the system...say m/b or ram).

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All in all, I'd say that problems with video cards have more to do with the card manufacturers than the GPU makers, barring major driver problems--which I've sen with both the green team and the red team.

True, but i've had ATI cards when the GPU maker WAS the card maker. Like i said, once they get performing the ATI cards perform as expected.
I have just noticed personally more weird glitches with ATI cards than with nVidia.
I think my count for cards goes as such, back to 1998:
2 Matrox
4 ATI (3 Radeons)
4 nvidia

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#274744 - 10/12/09 01:01 PM Re: Windows 7 PC Build [Re: chesseroo]
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My heat sink suggestion goes to the Prolimatech Megahalems. I just installed one for my overclocked Q6600 and it's a beast. It's currently the best cooler on the market-review's below. You could put in a Scythe Slip Stream 120 mm fan on it, or a Scythe Ultra Kaze 120MM High Static Pressure 38MM 3000RPM Fan as I have done (better performance but louder). It also fits in my Antec 900.

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#274750 - 10/12/09 01:51 PM Re: Windows 7 PC Build [Re: Da_Gimp_Pimp]
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#274774 - 10/12/09 05:52 PM Re: Windows 7 PC Build [Re: chesseroo]
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Is the Corsair still a rebadged Seasonic?

I like these guys for HTPC parts reviews.
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#274783 - 10/12/09 07:57 PM Re: Windows 7 PC Build [Re: fredk]
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I've seen the SilentPC site but their reviews i find are few and far in between.
They have some great tips on silencing issues though that i've used on my system.

Next two major changes towards silence include adding a water cooled system but using a quiet, slower pump not really for high end overclocking (e.g. the Zalman Reserator).

Second, moving to SSD for storage.

The two loudest components in my system are:
CPU fan (just using stock for now)
HD data seeking and platter spin

Otherwise my comp is almost dead quiet.
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#274784 - 10/12/09 08:01 PM Re: Windows 7 PC Build [Re: chesseroo]
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I've not been impressed with Zalman products in the past, I have to say. They're almost never as silent as everyone claims, since the silence comes at the expense of heat. And even when it's making noise, they still don't seem to cool all that well.
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#274809 - 10/13/09 01:52 AM Re: Windows 7 PC Build [Re: Da_Gimp_Pimp]
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Cam, the Prolimatech Megahalems sounds pretty cool. It may be the way to go, but there's definitely no way it would fit in the Antec P193 case I was looking at. Does anyone know of a quiet case that is roomy enough for a cooler like this, as well as whatever giant video card I end up with?
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#274810 - 10/13/09 02:35 AM Re: Windows 7 PC Build [Re: Ken.C]
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 Originally Posted By: kcarlile
I've not been impressed with Zalman products in the past, I have to say. They're almost never as silent as everyone claims, since the silence comes at the expense of heat. And even when it's making noise, they still don't seem to cool all that well.

Thats what I like about silentpcreview. They may not review often, but when they do, they provide lots of quantitative data.
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