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#285834 - 01/07/10 02:26 PM Re: The perfect power source for M80's!!! [Re: CV]
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While I may not have the "exact" system a source was recorded on, I do have a recording studio with very high end monitors that are very accurate.

But that kind of listening is very different than listening for pleasure.

The first is "work" related. Listening to exact/flat/accurate playback on near fields/mid fields sometimes reveals more ugliness than beauty (the "truth") and is way different than just listening for fun.

The second is for pleasurable "audiophile" listening. Where euphonic (but neutral and accurate) listening is desired.

When I write my review of the M22's, I plan on discussing the differences between "professional" and "audiophile" speakers.

Because they are apples and oranges.
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#285836 - 01/07/10 02:33 PM Re: The perfect power source for M80's!!! [Re: jakewash]
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 Originally Posted By: jakewash
I think that was the point everyone was trying to get across with the $4800 amp you want to buy. Are you sure there isn't a cheaper option that sounds as good, like maybe Axiom's A1400-2, half the price \:\)


Man, those A1400-2's are bad boys for sure. But I would still need a pre-amp and phono stage.

I think the Luxman/M80 set-up for $6100.00 would easily rival systems in the 10k to 20k range.
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#285844 - 01/07/10 02:44 PM Re: The perfect power source for M80's!!! [Re: audiosavant]
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 Originally Posted By: audiosavant


I have to give you the credit/blame wid. It was your post (I think) about getting the Luxman piece that made me re-investigate Luxman in the first place. So... Thanks!


Hey, don't go blaming me. Blame my dentist, he gave it to me \:D

In the end it is your money and your system. I'm sure the Luxman is going to be a fine piece of gear.
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#285847 - 01/07/10 02:55 PM Re: The perfect power source for M80's!!! [Re: Wid]
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 Originally Posted By: wid

Hey, don't go blaming me. Blame my dentist, he gave it to me...


Damn, my dentist just gives me dental work and (if I'm lucky) legal narcotics! ;\)
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#285894 - 01/07/10 08:43 PM Re: The perfect power source for M80's!!! [Re: audiosavant]
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That Luxman is one nice looking integrated amp. Looking forward to your review on it as well as your take on the M80's when you get them.
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#285914 - 01/07/10 11:28 PM Re: The perfect power source for M80's!!! [Re: merchman]
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There's something to be said for "pride of ownership". If you get a warm feeling every time you sit down with that luxman for the next 50 years, it was a bargain.
I'll point out, as long as we're spending your money, that 2 pairs of m-80's side by side would be really cool too.
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#285915 - 01/07/10 11:36 PM Re: The perfect power source for M80's!!! [Re: duckman]
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as long as the Luxman doesn't go into protect mode, lol ;\)
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#285921 - 01/08/10 12:50 AM Re: The perfect power source for M80's!!! [Re: SirQuack]
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Well your $1500.00(?) M80’s will certainly reproduce all the distortion your $4800.00 Luxman can produce. At 20 w/ch it’s a true audiophile amp, indeed.
What kind of headroom, if any, does this amp provide? As you’ll need it!
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#285925 - 01/08/10 01:44 AM Re: The perfect power source for M80's!!! [Re: Ukiah]
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Well those 20W/ch are continuous and at extremely low THD so I would bet it is capable of much more instantaneously and in line with our ~100W avr's most use these days. I guess the question is how much does distortion go up during those peaks? I bet it is still below most of our avr specs.
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#285941 - 01/08/10 09:19 AM Re: The perfect power source for M80's!!! [Re: jakewash]
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 Originally Posted By: jakewash
Well those 20W/ch are continuous and at extremely low THD so I would bet it is capable of much more instantaneously and in line with our ~100W avr's most use these days. I guess the question is how much does distortion go up during those peaks? I bet it is still below most of our avr specs.


That's one benefit of have an amp, or two \:\)
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