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#296824 - 03/16/10 11:22 AM Re: Is this a reasonable setup? [Re: MarkSJohnson]
Micah Offline
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Registered: 11/16/08
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Loc: Indiana you hoser!!!!
 Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson
 Originally Posted By: Micah
Those of us {{SNIPPED}} who have purchased through the F.O. have yet to find a flaw in the finish, and the drivers & everything else are perfect, they work and sound identical to the regular merchandise, so no worries.

I wouldn't say this is accurate.

The consensus seems to be that most who have purchased through the outlet find no flaws, while the rest find minor flaws. As noted, they work and sound identical to the regular merchandise.

It's been extremely rare for anyone to find a flaw that they object to, but to state that the speakers will be flawless is setting someone up for a possible disappointment if they find ANY flaw at all... even a minor one.

But yes, many of here recommend the outlet as it will save you quite a bit of money.


Good catch Mark, I didn't actually mean to say that. That's what I get for not proof reading eh? Lol

Yes I had intended to say, "haven't found much to fault them", as in it's hard to find much if anything wrong with the finish. I certainly would not want to give the impression that they are flawless, and to expect flawless speakers though. Unless we're talking performance... THAT should be flawless! ;\)


Edited by Micah (03/16/10 11:29 AM)
Edit Reason: Because my proof reading skills SUCK!!!
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#296825 - 03/16/10 11:30 AM Re: Is this a reasonable setup? [Re: CatBrat]
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You can also upgrade to Regular stock if you're not happy with the outlet...
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#296827 - 03/16/10 11:41 AM Re: Is this a reasonable setup? [Re: HAY]
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You know, I don't think that M3/VP100/QS4 would be a bad choice at all. I have a VP100 and QS4s and I'm generally satisfied with them. I have a larger room than you do, I think. Of course, I also listen at lower volume levels than most around here, which explains why I have M80s. (???)
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#296829 - 03/16/10 11:46 AM Re: Is this a reasonable setup? [Re: HAY]
Micah Offline
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 Originally Posted By: HAY
You can also upgrade to Regular stock if you're not happy with the outlet...


Certainly an option, I'd be curious to know how many people have actually been unhappy with their F.O. speakersd anyway? No doubt there have probably been a few over the years, but I wouldn't imagine very many.

Usually I'm with Cat, and would rather spend the extra cabbage ensuring my speakers were 100% flawless. But after receiving my speakers I couldn't find anything at all to warrant returning them.
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#296831 - 03/16/10 11:49 AM Re: Is this a reasonable setup? [Re: Micah]
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I only remember 2 instances. One of which the speakers had a rather large chip and even Axiom agreed that they shouldn't have been shipped. There was a post with pics somewhere...
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#296835 - 03/16/10 12:25 PM Re: Is this a reasonable setup? [Re: HAY]
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Out of all my Factory outlet speakers ( epic 80/500 5.1) only the subwoofer had a noticieable flaw. There was a small scratch on the back.
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#296841 - 03/16/10 01:20 PM Re: Is this a reasonable setup? [Re: terzaghi]
tomtuttle Offline
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Registered: 06/20/03
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Loc: Tacoma
No trouble with FO speakers, here. I would definitely order that way again.

I absolutely disagree that a VP150 is warranted in that size space. VP100 is a very good speaker and certainly adequate.

The QS speakers are awesome and seductive. I love my QS8's. HOWEVER, they are expensive when you're on a budget. Going to (onwall?) M2's for the surround speakers saves you ~$200 which could be applied to upgrading from the M2 to M22 for the mains (which I definitely recommend). A lot depends upon how much flexibility you have regarding mounting the surrounds.

I agree with Ken that M3/QS4 would be just great for that size space, too. If it was me, I'd try to figure out a way to get the M22/QS8, though.

You definitely don't need 7.1.

I don't know what they're getting for shipping, but Outlaw has their LFM-1 Plus for $467 right now, which seems like a very good value. Hsu helped design it, I believe.

Good luck! Enjoy the journey!
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#296843 - 03/16/10 01:24 PM Re: Is this a reasonable setup? [Re: terzaghi]
JonHan Offline
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My "regular stock" order of HG cherry vinyl came with flaws, misaligned sheets with gaps. Maybe I should of ordered F.O.
Anyway they sound great.
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#296848 - 03/16/10 01:57 PM Re: Is this a reasonable setup? [Re: tomtuttle]
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 Originally Posted By: tomtuttle

I agree with Ken that M3/QS4 would be just great for that size space, too. If it was me, I'd try to figure out a way to get the M22/QS8, though.


You guys must like it loud!

 Originally Posted By: tomtuttle

I don't know what they're getting for shipping, but Outlaw has their LFM-1 Plus for $467 right now, which seems like a very good value. Hsu helped design it, I believe.


I stuck it in a cart and went through checkout -> looked like free shipping.... so it is cheaper than a delivered VTF-1. Seems like a deal to me.

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#296850 - 03/16/10 02:00 PM Re: Is this a reasonable setup? [Re: TinCanMan]
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Registered: 06/22/03
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That Outlaw sub will be a better performer than the smaller Hsu. That's a great price.

I too would try my best to at least upgrade to the M22s.
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