Depends on the product. I have a BBQ lighter beside the fireplace whose tendency to catch fire seems disappointingly low given its intended use.

Click. Click. Click. Click. ^%#@^%#@%&!!!

Is that Bowmanvillian for "I just singed my eyebrows off"?

Nope, more like "that's all the clicking I'm going to invest in this piece of junk, time to get the box of matches".

In its defence, I picked up the lighter at a grocery store one very cold day when my car door lock was frozen and I needed something more effective than cursing to heat up the car key and let me get back inside, and it *did* let me get back in the car.

Yes I had lock de-icer. In the car.

Where it was toasty warm.

John through experience I've found that keeping a Bic pocket lighter on hand specifically for lighting the BBQ lighter keeps the BBQ lighter from finding itself on the bottom of the pool and lights on the very first click.

If you think 'Click. Click. Click. Click. ^%#@^%#@%&!!!' is bad, try lighting one after it's been on the bottom of the swimming pool.

ha!

Great information all and I appreciate it. I had some misinformation on DSP technology mostly from a stereotype due to really poor DSP performance in lower end HT receivers that came out 5-10 years ago. I had always thought DSP made things sound horrible and fake.

I realize that good technology/software and research can make a product more consistent with what the designer had in mind. After being in the market for HT equipment for going on one year now I feel that SVS is moving in the right direction and I hope they are truly putting in a quality product. I would recommend, SVS HSU Axiom Outlaw and many other "internet" companies as they have built a solid reputation among the communities.

Unfortunately for me Axiom subs may be ten times better than a SVS but at the moment they are simply out of my price range. For now the PB12-NSD will have to do.

He was probably talking about the DSP modes like "Hall", "Stadium", "Club", etc. They still make things sound horrible and fake.

DSP just means Digital Signal Processor. What's done with the signal processing is what counts.

You are 100% correct. This was the stereotype that I had.

I'm curious to learn more about the new SVS amps and the built in parametric EQs. I wonder if they make my SMS-1 unnecessary.

I have to agree that I think Axiom's higher end subs are *very* nice but I think SVS's subs in the < $1200 range are a better value.

I am curious which sounds better between the EP500v3 and the PC12+ DSP. I would expect the PC12+ to have the edge.

I just noticed that SVS is using Analog Devices' DSPs which last time I checked, have a pretty good reputation.