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#328589 - 11/16/10 02:10 AM Re: Power conditioner / Surge Protection [Re: ClubNeon]
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Smart UPS are awesome. I've also overloaded them. Not that hard... wink I use a Belkin UPS at home. Probably not a true sine wave model, though, given how inexpensive it was. Oh well.
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#328591 - 11/16/10 04:26 AM Re: Power conditioner / Surge Protection [Re: Ken.C]
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Something to consider when I stop finding other things to buy.

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#328595 - 11/16/10 10:52 AM Re: Power conditioner / Surge Protection [Re: CV]
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With that UPS you'll need a 30A breaker and a special outlet installed. But if you were planning for a custom 20A install already, no reason not to go with the 30A. The locking (L5-30P) wall outlets are really nice, and the UPS will then provide the normal outlets you are used to seeing.
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#328603 - 11/16/10 12:13 PM Re: Power conditioner / Surge Protection [Re: ClubNeon]
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Thanks, Chris.

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#328605 - 11/16/10 12:16 PM Re: Power conditioner / Surge Protection [Re: bdpf]
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I would avoid plugging a high power amp into any power conditioner, especially ones that are are transformer coupled. I've heard stories that they rob power and can actually damage your amp. I think this whole power conditioner product scheme is a waste of $$$ just like magic audio tweaks.

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#328606 - 11/16/10 12:18 PM Re: Power conditioner / Surge Protection [Re: CV]
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Oh, and you can find L5-30P to 5-15R or 5-20R adapter cords for less than $20 so you can plug standard things into the 30A outlet without having to get the UPS first.
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#328658 - 11/16/10 03:37 PM Re: Power conditioner / Surge Protection [Re: JBall]
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Originally Posted By: JBall
I would avoid plugging a high power amp into any power conditioner, especially ones that are are transformer coupled. I've heard stories that they rob power and can actually damage your amp. I think this whole power conditioner product scheme is a waste of $$$ just like magic audio tweaks.


This is the reason I dumped my Belkin PF60. It employed multiple transformers and chokes to achieve its goal of clean power.

Like Chris suggests, I would love to have implemented a large enough UPS system in my house to feed my system. However, the finance director (wife) did not feel the same way I did about audio/video excellence.







Edited by wbedford (11/16/10 03:37 PM)
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#328672 - 11/16/10 05:56 PM Re: Power conditioner / Surge Protection [Re: wbedford]
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I have a APC H10 for about 2 year now and all i can tell is that it work just fine, just sit there and do is job. Relay all my power cable too.
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#328695 - 11/16/10 07:30 PM Re: Power conditioner / Surge Protection [Re: Philippe]
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Originally Posted By: Philippe
I have a APC H10 for about 2 year now and all i can tell is that it work just fine, just sit there and do is job. Relay all my power cable too.


Ditto. I have the exact same unit and am extremely happy with it.
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#328759 - 11/17/10 10:53 AM Re: Power conditioner / Surge Protection [Re: Da_Gimp_Pimp]
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I own a PS Audio Duet I use for my headphone rig. Would have never paid $250 for it new, so I found it used on Audigon. In my research, it stood alone with the filtering and protection it offered for its price point. PS Audio claims there are no voltage restrictions that other conditioners suffer from. Plus, it glows a cool blue color.

I view it as a "power conditioner" second and a over/under voltage protector first. Most surge protectors do not protect against both over/under voltage fluctuations. My parents lost a TV and a refrigerator due to a brown out (voltage drop). So, if you do invest in a UPS/power conditioner, look for over/under voltage protection.

Some of PS Audio's claims on the site are a little sensationalist (phrases like "sound/video you've never experienced before"), but the utility in some of their devices is pretty awesome, like multiple power zones that will turn on/off on a delay, "auto reboot" power zones, you can even control one UPS from your iPhone!

While I would never drop 2 grand on a power conditioning system, investing some money into power equipment and getting some free conditioning isn't bad either. I thought it was a neat little unit that was well-priced.


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