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#336073 - 01/28/11 03:37 PM Re: Receiver/Amplifier Reviews [Re: CatBrat]
PeterChenoweth Offline
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I would strongly encourage someone to buy the equipment and try it in their own home. That's the only way to really hear differences; real or imagined.

Personally, I've purchased multiple AVR's at the same time for back-to-back testing and I've definitely heard differences in the sound, brand A vs. brand B. I won't argue that it's the amplification sections making the difference, but I think it's naive to believe that every brand's implementation of sound processing is identical. Chips are different. The code driving those chips is different. The design architecture is different. Then there's each manufacturer's implementation of room EQ too; Audyssey vs MCACC vs YPAO.

So ultimately, yes, I think different AVR's can and do sound different from one another.
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#336075 - 01/28/11 03:46 PM Re: Receiver/Amplifier Reviews [Re: PeterChenoweth]
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If you're using room EQ, you will hear a difference between manufacturers.
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#336076 - 01/28/11 03:48 PM Re: Receiver/Amplifier Reviews [Re: ClubNeon]
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I thing you should always leave built in EQ out of the equation.

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#336078 - 01/28/11 03:55 PM Re: Receiver/Amplifier Reviews [Re: CatBrat]
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If "room correction" is a big deal to you, it probably should be at the top of the list of reasons to buy a certain make. It's going to make a bigger difference in the performance of a receiver than any other feature, just because it is there to change the sound. All the other features are there to preserve the sound.
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#336124 - 01/28/11 06:56 PM Re: Receiver/Amplifier Reviews [Re: ClubNeon]
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This is a topic of belief. There will never be agreement on whether or not solid state electronics sound different or the same, regardless of the evidence.
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#336129 - 01/28/11 07:23 PM Re: Receiver/Amplifier Reviews [Re: fredk]
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I say "Let the ears agree".

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#336144 - 01/28/11 08:27 PM Re: Receiver/Amplifier Reviews [Re: CatBrat]
fredk Offline
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As long as its double blind so the bias is removed...

See where this is going?
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#336148 - 01/28/11 09:16 PM Re: Receiver/Amplifier Reviews [Re: fredk]
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No where?
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#336150 - 01/28/11 09:19 PM Re: Receiver/Amplifier Reviews [Re: jakewash]
fredk Offline
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Yep.
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#336160 - 01/28/11 10:02 PM Re: Receiver/Amplifier Reviews [Re: fredk]
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Ooops - for starting a go nowhere thread. grin
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