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#345547 - 04/19/11 10:25 PM Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti
deadmau5 Offline
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Registered: 04/19/11
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Hi I'm deadmau5 and this is my first post! I've been a huge fan of axiom for 6 years ever since I bought a pair of m22ti's. I've been getting back into the hobby for the last few weeks and started treating my bedroom acoustically and also helping two friends buying budget hifi's for themselves via craigslist. It got me thinking about my own upgrades.

Right now I have a yamaha htr-5660 series receiver. It's fairly good as far as I know however I've always wondered what a separate power amp could do. My friend's relatively cheap klipsh b2's really benefited just from going from a cheapo sony receiver to an older yamaha stereo A series receiver (sounded like different speakers, added a whole lot of dynamic range and authority).

Tubes aren't really my thing, are there any favorite pairings for the m22's? I also mention longterm because I plan to eventually get m80's, but that is a long way off and I can spend <300 on a good amp for now that will drive my next pair better as well.

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#345561 - 04/19/11 11:56 PM Re: Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti [Re: deadmau5]
tomtuttle Offline
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Registered: 06/20/03
Posts: 8271
Loc: Tacoma
Welcome.

Does your Yamaha have pre-outs, or are you looking for a new receiver?

Do you listen at high volumes?

Is this a two-channel system or multi-channel?

Most people think competently engineered solid-state amps sound indistinguishable.

It seems pretty unlikely to me that you're going to hear a noticeable difference unless you go to tubes or listen at fairly high volumes.

That being said, it's fun to buy new stuff smile

Have fun.
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#345589 - 04/20/11 11:11 AM Re: Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti [Re: tomtuttle]
Philippe Offline
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If you goind to keep a 2channel only then i vote for a integrated amplifier instead of a av receiver. At least you will use the amp at his 100% capabilety instead of the millions fonctions of a avr you wont ever use and pay.At this price range 250-500$ you can find something very good


Edited by Philippe (04/20/11 11:13 AM)
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#345626 - 04/20/11 07:53 PM Re: Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti [Re: Philippe]
deadmau5 Offline
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Registered: 04/19/11
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I'm a 2 channel guy. HT is a goal for the future but my receiver does have pre-outs anyway. Is it not worth upgrading until after I get m80's?

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#345636 - 04/20/11 09:47 PM Re: Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti [Re: deadmau5]
tomtuttle Offline
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I'd get some nice, vintage (restored?) integrated amp from the 70's like a Kenwood or a Sansui. But, I love that stuff.

Honestly, I don't think you're going to get much bang for your buck until you get the M80's.
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#345637 - 04/20/11 09:53 PM Re: Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti [Re: tomtuttle]
Wid Offline
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Registered: 06/22/03
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Take a look at the HK 3490.
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#345643 - 04/20/11 10:31 PM Re: Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti [Re: deadmau5]
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Deadmau, welcome. Simply from the standpoint of basic amplification there doesn't appear to be a good reason to replace your 5660. Except in the highly unlikely situation that you're playing the M22s so loudly(and possibly endangering your hearing)that the designed 5660 limits are being exceeded, it's doing the job as well as amplification can.

If you want to spend money on audio equipment at this time a far better enhancement to your enjoyment of music would be adding a pair of surrounds to make the home listening experience a bit more realistic(using a mode such as DPLII).
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#345649 - 04/21/11 12:04 AM Re: Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti [Re: JohnK]
al1en Offline
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Registered: 03/27/04
Posts: 76
Loc: Wichita, KS
Deadmau5, with my M60s I did not really notice any performance difference in just adding an offboard power amp, in my case the Emotiva UPA-7. However when I replaced my Denon AVR-3805 receiver with the Emotiva UMC-1 processor it was a huge improvement.

I therefore second the earlier opinion that if you want sound quality go with a simple stereo only receiver setup. I am currently trying to steer a friend in the same direction. There are some nice analog stereo receivers out there that will provide good performance. Home theater receivers are spreading your money across many functions that you may never use.

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#345651 - 04/21/11 02:14 AM Re: Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti [Re: al1en]
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Registered: 03/16/02
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Loc: CA, USA
I don't want to argue with JohnK, but, I think there are noticeable differences in sound quality among different amps.

My M22s really opened up and sing when driven by a vintage Harman Kardon PM 665 integrated dual mono amplifier.

I had good results with a flagship Kenwood KA9100 integrated amp.

I did not have good results with a 5 wpc SET tube amplifier.

I did not have good results with a Sony STRDB 1070 when used as a 2 channel integrated stereo amp/receiver.

Good luck.
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#345660 - 04/21/11 10:13 AM Re: Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti [Re: 2x6spds]
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Registered: 04/02/03
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Loc: Leesburg, Virginia
It would be helpful to all concerned if you were more descriptive when telling us how an amp changed the sound of your speakers. We can only guess what you mean by "opened up and sing".
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