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#364375 - 01/20/12 11:44 AM Re: Sony HW30 vs Panny AE7000 vs Epson 5010 [Re: Bayne]
nickbuol Offline
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Registered: 09/16/04
Posts: 4415
Loc: Marion, IA
I've heard that the (of all people) Disney WOW disc is great for DIY calibration. I hope so because I bought it. The others out there seem like just minor updates to the old DVD versions, which who knows if they are an issue or not as I too have the DVD version of a few calibration discs.

Plus, you are right on with this, many people post online the calibrations that they are using, and while there are other factors, like screen gain, etc, but they are a great starting point.
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#364431 - 01/20/12 05:27 PM Re: Sony HW30 vs Panny AE7000 vs Epson 5010 [Re: nickbuol]
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Hey, I found the RS45 calibration thread over at AVS... Here you go:
JVS DLA-RS45/X30 Calibration
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#364469 - 01/21/12 09:07 AM Re: Sony HW30 vs Panny AE7000 vs Epson 5010 [Re: nickbuol]
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Registered: 07/24/09
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Loc: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
The price of any projector here are very high, usually selling at USA list price, so it would be like $4200 or so. The price he quoted does include 2 pairs of 3D glasses. I did ask my friend who is in the business of AV, he said it's a ver good price and about 25% cheaper than RS40 previously sold here and he's surprised at the price quoted as well.

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#366186 - 02/10/12 08:56 AM Re: Sony HW30 vs Panny AE7000 vs Epson 5010 [Re: mpyw]
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Registered: 07/24/09
Posts: 279
Loc: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Finallly ordered the Sony, will be installing next week.....wish me luck! :p

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#366187 - 02/10/12 08:57 AM Re: Sony HW30 vs Panny AE7000 vs Epson 5010 [Re: mpyw]
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Wish you luck... smile
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#366193 - 02/10/12 09:39 AM Re: Sony HW30 vs Panny AE7000 vs Epson 5010 [Re: mpyw]
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Nice choice.

I stole the info below from a post on AVS by this guy that seems to do a LOT of projector testing/reviewing. You will notice that the Sony shows up on the list multiple times (which is good).


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*******Coder's Projector Picks and Awards of 2012*******
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Best 2D Image for Movies under $8,000 = JVC RS-55 LCOS with e-shift and Lens Memory (CIH ability)
Runner Up: Sony vw95es (also has CIH)

Best 2D Image for Movies under $4000 = JVC RS-45 LCOS with Lens Memory (CIH Ability)
Runner Ups: Sony hw30 and Epson 5010 (neither have CIH)

Best "Do Everything but CIH" Projector (3D, 2D, and Gaming) under $4000 = Sony hw30
Runner Up: Epson 5010 (has some gaming lag)

Best "Do Everything with CIH" Projector under $4000 = Panasonic ae7000u
Runner Up: JVC RS-45 (some gaming lag, 3D not perfect)

Best 2D Image for Movies under $2500 = JVC HD250
Runner Up: Epson 8700ub

Best overall 2D Image under $2000 = Epson 8700ub, Benq w6000, and Mitsubishi hc4000
Runner Ups: Panasonic ae4000u

Best overall 2D Image with Easy Placement Flexibility under $2000: Epson 8700ub
Runner Up: Benq w6000 (not as placement flexible, but sharper)

Best overall 2D Image with Easy Placement Flexibility under $1500: Epson 8350
Runner Up: Benq w6000 (not quite as placement flexible but a sharper image)

Best Overall 2D Image under $1500 = Mitsubishi hc4000 and Benq w6000
Runner Up: Epson 8350 and Benq w1200

Best 2D Image for an LCD under $1500 = Epson 8350

Lowest Cost 3D-1080p LCD Projector: Epson 3010

Lowest Cost 1080p 2D Only Image = Viewsonic Pro8200
Runner Up: Optoma hd20, various Acer 1080p Models

Most accurate projectors under $2000 without ANY Calibration (good gamma and color): Epson 3010/8350/8700ub, and Mitsubishi hc4000
Most accurate projectors under $5000 before Calibration: Sony hw30 (also very accurate after calibration)

Sharpest Projectors of 2012: Benq Models, Runco Models, and various high-end DLP models

Sharpest Non-DLP Projectors of 2012 = JVC RS-45/55/65
Runner Up: Epson 5010

Sharpest Projectors under $2500 = Benq w1200 and Benq w6000
Runner Up: Mitsubishi hc4000 and JVC HD250 LCOS

DLP Projector with least Rainbow Effect (RBE) under $2000: Optoma hd33/hd3300

DLP Projector with least Rainbow Effect (RBE) under $1500: Viewsonic Pro8200

Lowest Cost Projector with fully automated CIH Lens Memory (auto-zooms 16:9, 2.35 naturally): Panasonic ae4000u

Lowest Cost Projector with semi-auto CIH: Mitsubishi hc4000 (has to scale 16:9, 2.35 naturally)

Best Low Cost Closeout or Refurb LCOS Projector: LG cf181d or any of the JVC Models (when available - RS10, HD250, RS15, RS20, etc...)

Best Low Cost Closeout or Refurb LCD Projector: Epson 6500ub (when available) or Epson 8500ub/8700ub (limited availability for refurbs)

Best DLP Black Levels under $2000 = Acer 9500bd and Benq w6000

Best Low Cost 3D Image under $2000 = Acer 9500bd and Optoma hd33
Runner Up: Epson 3010

Best Overall 3D Image under $4000 = Acer9500bd and Epson 5010 and Sony hw30
Runner Ups: Benq w7000 and Optoma hd8300

Best Black Levels in 3D under $4000 = Acer9500bd and Panasonic ae7000u
Runner Ups: Sony hw30 and Epson 5010 (IRIS is disabled in 3D mode, others have IRIS)

Best 3D Gaming Projectors with Best 2D under $4000 = Sony hw30 and Benq w7000 and Panasonic ae7000u
Runner Up: Acer 9500bd (SBS issue affects some games, lacks calibration controls which gives others edge in 2D)

Best CIH / 2.35 Format Projectors under $4000: JVC RS-45 and Panasonic ae7000u

Best NON-3D Gaming Projector under $1000 = Viewsonic Pro8200 DLP
Runner Up: Optoma hd20

Best NON-3D Gaming Projector under $1500 = Mitsubishi hc4000 DLP
Runner Up: Epson 8350 (better placement flexibility, but not quite as sharp)

Best 3D Gaming Projector under $2000 = Optoma hd33
Runner Ups: Acer9500bd (SBS issue), and Epson 3010 (lag + LCD vs. DLP)

Best 2D Image with High Lumens under $1200 = Benq w1200
Runner Up: Viewsonic Pro8200 (higher lumens than the Benq w1200, but image and black levels are not as good)

Best Native Motion under $2000 = Mitsubishi hc4000

Best Projector at handling poorer sources and maintaining the appearance of a clean signal (Cable, Netflix, etc...) under $2000:
Mitsuibishi hc4000

Best 1080p Light Cannon Projector for Large Screens under $1000 = Viewsonic Pro8200 (1500+ Lumens near best mode) ...Handles 150" to 180" Screens without gain...

Best 1080p Light Cannon Projector for Large Screens under $1500 = Epson 3010 (1500+ Lumens Near Best Mode) ...Handles 150" to 180" Screens without gain...
Runner Ups: Benq w6000, Benq w1200, and Optoma hd33 (1000+ to 1200+ lumens)

Best 1080p Light Cannon Projector for VERY Large Screens under $2000 = Panasonic ar100u (2000+ Lumens near best mode) ...Handles 200"+ Screens...

Best 1080p Light Cannon Projector for VERY Large Screens under $3500 = Epson g5450 @ 4000 rated Max Lumens (2500+ Lumens near best mode) ...Handles 250"+ Screens...

Best 1080p Light Cannon Projector for VERY Large Screens under $5000 = Epson g5750 @ 4500 rated Max Lumens (3000+ Lumens near best mode) ...Handles 275"+ Screens...

Most Controversial Projectors and Biggest Dissapointments of 2012: Middle-End DLP's between $2000 and $5000
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#366196 - 02/10/12 09:48 AM Re: Sony HW30 vs Panny AE7000 vs Epson 5010 [Re: mpyw]
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Registered: 08/05/09
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Cool. I made a doc out of this and saved it to my desktop.

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#367419 - 02/20/12 08:46 AM Re: Sony HW30 vs Panny AE7000 vs Epson 5010 [Re: mpyw]
mpyw Offline
local

Registered: 07/24/09
Posts: 279
Loc: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Installed the Sony hw30es on sat. The installer do the calibration and tune the gamma to almost perfect 2.2 and around 6500k. The picture is WOW!

The low lamp mode is good enough for me in 3D mode and very bright in 2D mode. Black level is no as good as the JVC but without Side by side comparison, you won't notice a thing missing. It look so solid and I don' need to do any panel alignment adjustment at all, it's sharp but not as sharp as the DLP competitor.

Will post some picture over the weekend.

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#367423 - 02/20/12 10:44 AM Re: Sony HW30 vs Panny AE7000 vs Epson 5010 [Re: mpyw]
nickbuol Offline
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Registered: 09/16/04
Posts: 4415
Loc: Marion, IA
Awesome. Glad you are loving it!
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#367969 - 02/26/12 06:14 AM Re: Sony HW30 vs Panny AE7000 vs Epson 5010 [Re: mpyw]
mpyw Offline
local

Registered: 07/24/09
Posts: 279
Loc: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
here some picture of my new projector :p



the image:-





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