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#376965 - 05/24/12 11:34 AM E-Bay Observation
Woodrow Offline
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Registered: 05/22/12
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Loc: Sacramento, CA
While I was doing research, before I purchased my M60s, I noticed that there were A LOT of Paradigm, KEF, Mirage, B&W, (and boat loads of) Polk, Klipsch, and Bose, but barely any Axioms. Talking strickly used. Hmmm, I wonder why. wink

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#376966 - 05/24/12 11:35 AM Re: E-Bay Observation [Re: Woodrow]
MarkSJohnson Offline
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No one feels the need to upgrade? smile
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#376967 - 05/24/12 11:38 AM Re: E-Bay Observation [Re: Woodrow]
medic8r Offline
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Registered: 02/05/06
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Good point, Woody. They are pretty scarce on the used market.

I suspect that's at least partially due to the trade-in program in the past (now replaced by the Axiom Auctions). Often, when an Axiomite gets rid of a speaker, it's in a trade-in/upgrade to another Axiom speaker. Keeping it in the family. Welcome to the speaker Mafia.
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#376968 - 05/24/12 11:49 AM Re: E-Bay Observation [Re: Woodrow]
BlueJays1 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Woodrow
While I was doing research, before I purchased my M60s, I noticed that there were A LOT of Paradigm, KEF, Mirage, B&W, (and boat loads of) Polk, Klipsch, and Bose, but barely any Axioms. Talking strickly used. Hmmm, I wonder why. wink


These are all brands that are mass market and I would bet these companies are sales leaders (top tier) in Europe, NA or both with Bose right at the top of the list, Klipsch and Polk following. B&W would be dominate in Europe. More sales, more products available on the used market. Simple economics.
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#376976 - 05/24/12 01:15 PM Re: E-Bay Observation [Re: Woodrow]
Woodrow Offline
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Registered: 05/22/12
Posts: 27
Loc: Sacramento, CA
Sorry Bluejay. I gotta believe it has more to do with people getting tired, fatigued, with their inferior products.(Wouldn't be the first time I was wrong, though.)

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#376981 - 05/24/12 02:11 PM Re: E-Bay Observation [Re: Woodrow]
Socketman Offline
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Registered: 07/12/09
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Loc: Whitehorse YT
I thinks it is a combination of both loyalty and mass market. Axiom is a niche brand with loyal customers. Sales of used axioms seem to be to freinds or family memebers as we have upgrade itits here. The large companies like klipsch for example pound out speakers in offshore factories at a certain rate and if they dont distribute all of them they find their way onto sites like ebay being sold by vendors who bought them at overstock prices. or i could just be full of **** cool
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#376982 - 05/24/12 02:15 PM Re: E-Bay Observation [Re: Socketman]
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Originally Posted By: Socketman
we have upgrade itits here.

Is there ANYthing Apple doesn't try to improve upon?
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#376983 - 05/24/12 02:17 PM Re: E-Bay Observation [Re: Woodrow]
BlueJays1 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Woodrow
Sorry Bluejay. I gotta believe it has more to do with people getting tired, fatigued, with their inferior products.(Wouldn't be the first time I was wrong, though.)


It's no coincidence that the top selling speaker manufacturers in the world (top selling products do not necessarily mean great products) have the most exposure in the used market. The parity would be very large to that of ID companies.

Small ID companies like SVS, Axiom, Aperion, Salk Sound, Ascend would pale in comparison in sales (were talking millions and millions of units here) to that of HUGE companies that are exposed to the masses everywhere around the world like Bose, B&W, Harman, Polk, Klipsch.

Ebay is economics at its finest at work.
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#376986 - 05/24/12 02:56 PM Re: E-Bay Observation [Re: MarkSJohnson]
medic8r Offline
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Registered: 02/05/06
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Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson
Originally Posted By: Socketman
we have upgrade itits here.

Is there ANYthing Apple doesn't try to improve upon?

Now, that is FUNNY !!!

Proof that you (I) can find anything on the internet:




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#376987 - 05/24/12 03:07 PM Re: E-Bay Observation [Re: Woodrow]
MarkSJohnson Offline
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JP, I knew that you would be first to comment on a boobie joke!
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#376988 - 05/24/12 03:24 PM Re: E-Bay Observation [Re: Woodrow]
medic8r Offline
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Registered: 02/05/06
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Where you lead, I follow, sensei.
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#376989 - 05/24/12 03:35 PM Re: E-Bay Observation [Re: medic8r]
Woodrow Offline
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Registered: 05/22/12
Posts: 27
Loc: Sacramento, CA
Bet there's not a lot of used iTits being sold...OK, now I'm creeping myself out.

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#376991 - 05/24/12 03:43 PM Re: E-Bay Observation [Re: Woodrow]
medic8r Offline
axiomite

Registered: 02/05/06
Posts: 6402
Loc: Fredericksburg, Virginia
Now you're a full-fledged Axiomite!

Quick, someone, get him his membership card and smoking jacket!
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#376995 - 05/24/12 03:55 PM Re: E-Bay Observation [Re: Woodrow]
tomtuttle Offline
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Registered: 06/20/03
Posts: 8293
Loc: Tacoma
JP, I'm pretty sure we voted to make YOU responsible for membership materials fulfillment.

Or maybe it was (dis)orientation. I forget.

Who has the charter, again?
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#376996 - 05/24/12 04:03 PM Re: E-Bay Observation [Re: Woodrow]
Ajax Offline
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Registered: 12/30/03
Posts: 6252
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
Originally Posted By: Woodrow
Bet there's not a lot of used iTits being sold...OK, now I'm creeping myself out.
Welcome! I think you are going to fit in, very well, here.
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#377005 - 05/24/12 07:13 PM Re: E-Bay Observation [Re: MarkSJohnson]
fredk Offline
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Registered: 12/06/07
Posts: 7123
Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson
Originally Posted By: Socketman
we have upgrade itits here.

Is there ANYthing Apple doesn't try to improve upon?

The price/performance ratio.
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#377007 - 05/24/12 07:21 PM Re: E-Bay Observation [Re: Woodrow]
BobKay Offline
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Registered: 03/23/10
Posts: 3167
Loc: Massachusetts Badlands
Originally Posted By: Woodrow
Bet there's not a lot of used iTits being sold...OK, now I'm creeping myself out.


You are going to do well here, but it's not because you can riff on a boob joke. It's because you can creep yourself out. Like most things worth pursuing, it's gotta start with yourself. As soon as you can make others feel that way, then you'll be cooking with gas.
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#377012 - 05/24/12 07:32 PM Re: E-Bay Observation [Re: Woodrow]
MarkSJohnson Offline
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Registered: 09/27/04
Posts: 10939
Loc: Central NH
Bob? Gas?

Now I'M creeped out.
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#377017 - 05/24/12 07:50 PM Re: E-Bay Observation [Re: MarkSJohnson]
BobKay Offline
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Registered: 03/23/10
Posts: 3167
Loc: Massachusetts Badlands
C'mon, Mark. Creeping you out is as impossible as the existence of french grammar.
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#377053 - 05/25/12 01:54 AM Re: E-Bay Observation [Re: BobKay]
BrenR Offline
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Registered: 12/10/03
Posts: 3602
Loc: Winnipeg MB Canada
My grammar was French. My grampar was Irish.

Bren R.

Originally Posted By: BobKay
C'mon, Mark. Creeping you out is as impossible as the existence of french grammar.


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#377061 - 05/25/12 09:43 AM Re: E-Bay Observation [Re: BrenR]
BobKay Offline
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Registered: 03/23/10
Posts: 3167
Loc: Massachusetts Badlands
Originally Posted By: BrenR
My grammar was French. My grampar was Irish.

Bren R.

Originally Posted By: BobKay
C'mon, Mark. Creeping you out is as impossible as the existence of french grammar.


Sorry, Bren. I would never intentionally negate your Grammar's existence.
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#377104 - 05/25/12 07:52 PM Re: E-Bay Observation [Re: BobKay]
fredk Offline
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Registered: 12/06/07
Posts: 7123
Loc: Canada
Grammercide. It ain't pretty.
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