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#378549 - 06/13/12 11:16 PM Re: Advantages of using 10 AWG cable over 12 AWG cable [Re: dakkon]
Gary Vose Sr Offline
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Registered: 03/17/12
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Loc: Casa Grande, AZ
Originally Posted By: dakkon
Gary, This is the cable that i use for my towers and center channel.
http://www.av-outlet.com/index.html?target=front.html&lang=en-us

i use these cables because they are not that expensive and like you pointed out with the 10gauge wire there is a lower resistance.

DC Resistance: 0.95 Ohm/1000'
• Rac @ 1KHz: 1.971mOhm/ft
• Capacitance @ 1KHz: 17.5pF/ft
• Inductance @ 1KHz: 0.179uH/ft

The spec's that i look at when looking at cables. are resistance, inductance, and capacitance. The inductance and capacitance are determined by the material used to insulate the conductors. the lower the inductance and capacitance the best.

If these two variables are 0, then there will be no altering of the AC signal being transmitted across the cable.

These cables replaced a pair of semi high end monster cables.
These are the cables that the 10gauge cables replaced.
http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=62

I like the 10gauge cables much better, one thing to note Monster does not put any specs at all what so ever on their website. Not even the gauge of the conductor..

What amp are you looking at? if that is a 5 channel amp rated for 400W per channel, it should be HUGE if it is a class A or A/B design.. If it is one of the newer digital amps, then it could be smaller..


Btw, my large 2 channel amp has a power cord that has 10 gauge conductors.. The thing is 2X as big as my thumb... That is a pure class A amp though.

I bought the 10 gauge cables that i did, because they do not really cost much more than 12 gauge..


I hope this helps a bit Gary.



Mark, thanks also for your link as well, it was more than a bit helpful. Reading through the link that Tom provided, it spoke in great detail to what you had mentioned here about resistance,inductance,and capacitance.
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#378550 - 06/13/12 11:26 PM Re: Advantages of using 10 AWG cable over 12 AWG cable [Re: JohnK]
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Registered: 02/08/04
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Originally Posted By: JohnK

In brief, the slightly lower resistance of 10ga wire is meaningless compared to 12ga(or even the 16ga lamp cord I use)at the length used for main speakers. Minute differences which can be measured but can't be heard are quite common in audio.


John, one other factor is the ascetics of the products. Part of the reason i bought the products to make the cables that i use is the way that they look. I think that my cables look nice, comparable to cables selling for hundreds of dollars.

I would agree, that the resistance between pretty much all cables at or under 10ft is very minimal.

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#378680 - 06/18/12 03:14 AM Re: Advantages of using 10 AWG cable over 12 AWG cable [Re: Gary Vose Sr]
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My pleasure, Gary. I'm quite sure I became aware of Russel's work courtesy of someone on this forum years ago.
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#378772 - 06/19/12 08:57 PM Re: Advantages of using 10 AWG cable over 12 AWG cable [Re: Gary Vose Sr]
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Gary, run the #10 if it will make you happier. sometimes you just gotta be happy and go with the hot sexy girl over the girl that is gonna be good to ya and not treat you like dirt (but is not hot & sexy)! hey, can't have everything.

i'm saying be happy cause life is unexpectedly short!
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#378781 - 06/19/12 10:34 PM Re: Advantages of using 10 AWG cable over 12 AWG cable [Re: solarrdadd]
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Originally Posted By: solarrdadd
Gary, run the #10 if it will make you happier. sometimes you just gotta be happy and go with the hot sexy girl over the girl that is gonna be good to ya and not treat you like dirt (but is not hot & sexy)! hey, can't have everything.

i'm saying be happy cause life is unexpectedly short!



That #10 AWG thing, I can get that by my wife with no problems. It's that hot & sexy thing, that I don't think will fly with her. smile
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