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#380720 - 07/26/12 02:53 PM Re: Help With An Article / Post? [Re: Amie]
medic8r Offline
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Registered: 02/05/06
Posts: 6275
Loc: Fredericksburg, Virginia
Elevate the speaker wire on levitation stands.

Expensive is always better.

Tube amps sound better than solid state amps.

All solid state amps both do and do not sound the same.

Ken is available to travel and work for free.

Tom is available to travel, work for free, and bring lots of beer.

Always get Randy to copy edit you're signage.
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#380721 - 07/26/12 02:54 PM Re: Help With An Article / Post? [Re: nickbuol]
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Registered: 05/13/02
Posts: 4739
Loc: western canada
Originally Posted By: nickbuol
Nice catch Chess on the "Soundproofing". I used that term just to make it more "newbie" friendly, but you are right on the mark. I can't imagine the cost of a fully "soundproof" room. The sound coming outside of my room is *significantly* quieter than inside the room, but you can still hear it of course. Those LFE sounds are very difficult to stop. I am still glad that I spent the time and money to do what I did. For about $1000 more (plus a LOT of elbow grease), it was a huge improvement over anything else I've ever done.

And this is the #1 question when i've had any people over.
Is the room soundproof?
No i tell them, it is sound controlled or sound dampened.

Their next question is inevitably, so can you hear this upstairs?
Again i answer, no, not really. The most you hear upstairs is some bass.

Of all the questions i've had over the years, those are still the first ones i get asked.
You would think people might say oh, nice speakers, where are they from? Or, hey, these are great loungers, what brand are they?
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#380722 - 07/26/12 02:55 PM Re: Help With An Article / Post? [Re: tomtuttle]
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Loc: western canada
Originally Posted By: tomtuttle

There is nothing better than copper.

I'll take gold over copper at today's prices, esp. if you're giving it away.
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#380788 - 07/28/12 10:05 AM Re: Help With An Article / Post? [Re: Amie]
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Registered: 08/25/04
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Loc: Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada
Oh, and if you're planning a square listening room be sure to check with Mark for his current recommendations.

Mark, I noticed in the recent SoundStage article that Axiom is building a new listening room... if they don't have plans for the old one I would be happy to help haul it over to your place wink

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#380796 - 07/28/12 11:22 AM Re: Help With An Article / Post? [Re: Amie]
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Loc: Central NH
That would be awesome, John! grin
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#380824 - 07/29/12 12:26 PM Re: Help With An Article / Post? [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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Registered: 12/06/07
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Loc: Canada
Maybe its because I have a more casual home theater set up, or mayby its just because I came to this forum and asked a million stupid questions before my speakers arrived, but I don't really have any 'I wish I had's".

The best thing I ever did was ask those questions. Even Mark was helpful.
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#380832 - 07/29/12 05:06 PM Re: Help With An Article / Post? [Re: Amie]
bridgman Offline
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Registered: 08/25/04
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Loc: Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada
Maybe that's the most important advice of all -- ask questions.

I didn't ask any questions... that's why I have so many lessons learned wink

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#380853 - 07/30/12 08:22 AM Re: Help With An Article / Post? [Re: bridgman]
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Loc: PEI, Canada
Originally Posted By: bridgman
Oh, and if you're planning a square listening room be sure to check with Mark for his current recommendations.


His room is not square. It's symmetrically quadrangular.
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#381227 - 08/06/12 03:21 PM Re: Help With An Article / Post? [Re: Murph]
fredk Offline
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Registered: 12/06/07
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Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: Murph
Originally Posted By: bridgman
Oh, and if you're planning a square listening room be sure to check with Mark for his current recommendations.


His room is not square. It's symmetrically quadrangular.

I thought it was rectangularly challenged. No?
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#381804 - 08/17/12 09:18 PM Re: Help With An Article / Post? [Re: Amie]
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Registered: 07/06/12
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Ok, here is one I just finished paying for. I've just finished building a home theater that has all the speakers & entertainment cabinet built into a false wall. If you are standing looking at the wall, on the far right you have a closet that actually provides access to the space behind the false wall, then moving right to left you have the front right speaker cabinet, then the entertainment center cabinet, then the left front speaker cabinet, and then finally the sub-woofer cabinet on the far left. I ran speaker wire from all the speaker cabinets to the component section of the entertainment center prior to permanently installing the cabinets.

Well, I received my EP500 in the mail yesterday and today I hooked it up to my Denon in the office just to test that it works. It works great, sounds superb, BUT as I wired it up I realized that it takes TWO speaker wires not one. Yep, that's right, that sub-woofer cabinet, on the far left of the room, in the most inaccessible place, only has one wire going to it.

So I just spent the last hour fixing the situation. I bout a 50' length of audiquest 14AWG and doubled it over and taped the end in a loop. Then hooked the end of the wire coming out of the speaker cabinet through that loop. Then, starting at the closet on the far right of the room, i wormed my way over the right front speaker cabinet then worked my way up the two walls until i could get up on top of the entertainment center. So now i'm on my stomach on top of the entertainment center, about 10' off the floor, behind the wall, squirming my way along inch by inch toward the sub-woofer cabinet. Hanging off the far end of the entertainment center i can pull the existing wire up and over, eventually pulling the doubled over length up to me. From there I started inching myself backwards until I finally got the doubled over length hanging down the back of the cabinet.

With all that done, I inch my way backwards and eventually get down off the entertainment center and back out of the closet. Back in the room I pull the cable through into the room and loop it all up to call the job done. As I'm taping up the loop I notice the directional arrows on the wire jacket and of course one of the two lengths is pointing the "wrong" direction. I consider for a moment doing this all over again, pause, and then say the hell with it, tuck the coil into the back off the shelf and turn off the lights. FYI - right now I'm itching like heck from the insulation.

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