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#369197 - 03/09/12 10:56 AM Re: The Official Shoutbox Thread [Re: Kruncher]
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Registered: 11/08/05
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Good morning, gentle persons. Bob has just wired me from a secret location. Please correct typing error. Myanmar not Miranmar.
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#369202 - 03/09/12 04:01 PM Re: The Official Shoutbox Thread [Re: Kruncher]
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Registered: 06/23/07
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There's more to the Kony2012 video. Upon further research I've found there has been a lot of dissent surrounding the movement as a whole. I personally questioned the military intervention aspect, but this is only one objectionable piece of a much bigger puzzle.

It's easy to get sucked in when a video "pulls" at your emotions; I did. I question most everything, but the video got the better of me because there were children involved. It turned me from a libertarian socialist that abhors war and military intervention, to someone with a knee-jerk reaction supporting it. Don't get me wrong, I believe that military intervention can be just (after all other peaceful means have been exhausted), but there is one fundamental principal, and that is the people have to overwhelmingly agree to it-in this case the people of Uganda-and this definitely doesn't seem to be the case.

It's incontrovertible that Kony needs to be captured and brought to justice, but this will accomplish very little as it's a systemic problem in impoverished countries with corrupt president's and other curable contributing factors. The Ugandan president Yoweri Museveni-whom is a great friend of the U.S.-is wanted on war crimes...

If you read the articles and watch the video below (even do further research), it may change your view. It changed mine.

KONY 2012 Response from Adam Branch in Uganda

"Invisible Children" Co-founder (KONY 2012) Hints It's About Jesus, and Evangelizing

Joseph Kony 2012: growing outrage in Uganda over film

Video by a female blogger in Uganda.

We (White westerners) aren't the grandeur's of the universe.

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#369225 - 03/09/12 09:30 PM Re: The Official Shoutbox Thread [Re: Da_Gimp_Pimp]
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YouTube personality "Skweezy Jibbs" really nails it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdkI-PoVo64 (some profanity)

Try to get past his affectations. What he says is a great summary of this KONY campaign.
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#369233 - 03/09/12 11:35 PM Re: The Official Shoutbox Thread [Re: Murph]
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Originally Posted By: Murph

... Hopefully it will result in not only Koney's downfall but also a much better appreciation of the global issue.
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Given that both the Ugandan and US Military have been actively hunting him down for a number of years, I don't know what a video will accomplish other than wider recognition of this man and perhaps the issue of child soldiers.

The reason Koney is largely in the Congo is because of its vast jungles and failed government. It is rather hard to find an kill someone without the cooperation of the local government and a more friendly terrain.
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#370080 - 03/18/12 11:09 AM Re: The Official Shoutbox Thread [Re: Kruncher]
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Spent yesterday up in the Muskokas, an absolutely beautiful day. Summer is coming quickly to Southern/Central Ontario this year. We weren't too far from Axiom, relatively speaking, but didn't really have time to drop in and say "Hi" (not sure if the plant was open on Saturday or not). Anyway, we bought a nice boat in Bala, the main reason for the trip (at a great price) and then went over to Muskoka Lakes Winery and sampled some of their award winning Cranberry and Blueberry wines smile . Afterwards we had lunch and coffee at the foot of the falls in Bala, just beautiful.
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#370082 - 03/18/12 11:28 AM Re: The Official Shoutbox Thread [Re: Kruncher]
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Hmmmm...my invitation musta gotten lost in the mail or something? smile

Spring is early here, too. Seventies today and eighties midweek. Actually, that's not Spring, it's Summer.

Unbelievable.
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#370087 - 03/18/12 11:56 AM Re: The Official Shoutbox Thread [Re: Kruncher]
Adrian Offline
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Registered: 12/27/08
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Loc: It's all about the location.
They had quite a stockpile of wine, Mark. I'll let them know... smile
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#370090 - 03/18/12 12:32 PM Re: The Official Shoutbox Thread [Re: Kruncher]
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I'm actually not a wine fan. I'd be looking for beer.

But the trip still sounded nice and I'm deeply hurt that I wasn't invited.

Worse, you flaunt it in my face afterwards! grin
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#370092 - 03/18/12 12:36 PM Re: The Official Shoutbox Thread [Re: Kruncher]
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Registered: 12/27/08
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Loc: It's all about the location.
How about chutney? they had Wild Blueberry Crannberry Chutney.
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#370144 - 03/18/12 07:37 PM Re: The Official Shoutbox Thread [Re: Adrian]
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Originally Posted By: Adrian
How about chutney? they had Wild Blueberry Crannberry Chutney.


Why not just add pawpaw, so that all three of the indigenous fruits of North American can be included?? Poor pawpaw.

We were poor Spanish explorers, sent by the throne to look for new and exciting fruits. We didn't find any, so we had to kill everyone. We really didn't plan it, it just worked out that way. Sorry.
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