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#384271 - 10/17/12 06:03 PM Re: bi wiring [Re: brwsaw]
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Thank you so much for your support! Grover promises that, if elected, he will add that evil Dr. Bunsen Honeydew to the terror watchlist. Beaker will be free to live without fear!
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#384275 - 10/17/12 07:47 PM Re: bi wiring [Re: brwsaw]
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not waste your money on Buywiring.
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#384280 - 10/17/12 09:16 PM Re: bi wiring [Re: brwsaw]
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Long live Beaker
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#384285 - 10/17/12 09:59 PM Re: bi wiring [Re: brwsaw]
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BRW, since you're a newcomer, I'll fill you in on some of the comments. A few years ago there was a so-called "review" on Pear Cables that was notably absurd even for that topic. They cost about $2,000 for a 3' pair, but that was okay, since the reviewer found them to be "very danceable" and commented further that with those cables you couldn't simply sit and listen to the music, but had to get up and move. Of course this was the object of much hilarity here and when cables which cost more than a few dollars are brought up, occasionally a veteran member may still inquire as to their "danceability".

As to elevating them, this refers to the scam involving selling little supports to hold cables a few inches above the floor so that the sound wouldn't be contaminated by contact with the surface.

Now as to bi wiring(sometimes sarcastically referred to as "buy wiring"), this can provide no audible benefit. All wiring for a two-way or more speaker has to separate at some point before the crossover network in the speaker so that the high and low frequency sections of the crossover each get a feed of the signal. With regular wiring this split occurs inside the enclosure; bi wiring simply moves the split back to the output terminals on the receiver. The same sound is carried in each case.

Alan has commented in the past about bi wire capable terminals being offered as a sop to audiophiles who imagine some benefit. When Axiom dropped their inclusion as standard on some models and made them optional, I'd suggested that the option be priced at $1,000.
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#384288 - 10/17/12 10:10 PM Re: bi wiring [Re: JohnK]
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Thanks.
Spending too much on cables never did make sense.
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#384290 - 10/17/12 11:06 PM Re: bi wiring [Re: brwsaw]
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As most here agree, bi wiring won't buy you any improvement. However while on the subject of cables, I hope you give very serious consideration to power cables. Proper power cables prevent radio-frequency garbage from being fed back into the amplifier. This is the next best investment you can make after selecting the right speakers. Good power cords start at about $500.00. For your convenience I am including a link to one reputable dealer.

http://www.audioquest.com/power-cables/nrg-100

Share and enjoy.
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#384294 - 10/17/12 11:51 PM Re: bi wiring [Re: Boltron]
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Thanks I bought one for each component that I have that was listed...
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#384295 - 10/17/12 11:53 PM Re: bi wiring [Re: brwsaw]
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#384298 - 10/18/12 01:12 AM Re: bi wiring [Re: brwsaw]
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Yeah, that power cord fantasy is just another example, although rather extreme, of the advertising from the charlatans who pollute certain areas of the audio industry. They've learned how financially rewarding it can be to never underestimate the gullibility of some audiophiles, who're willing to pay 100 times as much for an item as trivial as a power cord to solve non-existent problems.
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#384299 - 10/18/12 01:17 AM Re: bi wiring [Re: brwsaw]
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I am going to buy Axiom speaker cable. I don't think I can go wrong with it.
My closest cable provider sells the 14 gauge Monster cable for $1.50 a foot.
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