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#387743 - 01/04/13 11:15 AM Re: CatBrat [Re: CatBrat]
Murph Offline
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I would think/hope that as long as the online dealer is authorized, it should be fine.
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#387753 - 01/04/13 03:34 PM Re: CatBrat [Re: CatBrat]
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I'm going to go for the Pioneer Elite SC-67 instead of the 65 because right now it's only $200 more at $1350. Originally a $2000 receiver. Whereas the 65 is originally a $1600 receiver. A little more bling. I like it.

I'll just have to eat melted snow for the next 2 weeks. smile

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#387754 - 01/04/13 03:45 PM Re: CatBrat [Re: CatBrat]
Gary Vose Sr Offline
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I have spoken too a pioneer customer service rep. about several matters dealing with their Elite line of receivers, and had asked that very same question. Their response was, the Elite's were never meant to be sold on line, only in authorized stores. That these authorized stores enter into an agreement which disallow them from offering them up online even though they are a authorized brick& mortar store. She then went on to say that some of the distributors are the ones who are selling to unauthorized dealers, and this is the reasoning for not warranting the online purchases.

I just recently purchased an Elite Sc-67 (which is now in transit) for my upcoming HT system. I purchased a two year warranty along with my Pioneer. This purchase along with the warranty was still less than buying it at Best Buy paying sales tax.
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#387755 - 01/04/13 03:54 PM Re: CatBrat [Re: CatBrat]
CatBrat Offline
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When I go to well here, it says something rather confusing and conflicting:

1) *Pioneer does NOT authorize any dealers to sell Elite-branded products on the Internet (only in-store sales are permitted). Therefore, any Elite-branded product purchased on the Internet is NOT authorized, which means that it does NOT carry the manufacturer's limited warranty and does not qualify for any manufacturer's rebate.

2) Peace of mind – Only authorized dealers are able to sell brand-new, non-refurbished, original stock products, complete with accessories and manuals that are made for use in the US.

When in doubt, check our lists and get links directly to authorized sites.

The following dealers are authorized to sell our products:

(included in this rather long list of icons, is Amazon.com)

So, does this mean a warranty comes with purchases of Pioneer goods at Amazon.com, or are they saying that the Elite's are exempt from the warranty.

Also, did you pay more or less than what Amazon is selling for $1350? and how do you get a warranty online?

I guess there is Square Trade. You have to follow Amazon's links to the Square Trade pages to get the warranty price, I see.


Edited by CatBrat (01/04/13 04:19 PM)

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#387758 - 01/04/13 04:24 PM Re: CatBrat [Re: CatBrat]
Gary Vose Sr Offline
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Yes Brian that is what I paid for my Pioneer Sc-67. Watch the pricing, as it will bounce back and forth between $1350 and $1380. If it go up to that higher price, it will only generally stay there for a couple of days, before coming back down.

In the order box it will give you the option to purchase the 2 year warranty. Check that smaller box(within the order box) before you enter the Pio into the shopping cart.
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#387759 - 01/04/13 04:29 PM Re: CatBrat [Re: CatBrat]
CatBrat Offline
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I've been to the Square Trade site. I don't have to buy the warranty from Amazon when I purchase the receiver.

I can go to the Square Trade site and purchase it up to 30 days after I buy it from Amazon, which is what I'll have to do.

It's $129.99 for a 3 year warranty. This covers home audio components valued in the $750-999 range. I didn't see a plan for home audio component over $999. Anyway, this means that the plan will pay out up to $999 in repairs on the warrantied component, or what you paid for it, whichever is the lesser amount.

I'd probably go for the 3 year instead of the 2 year, because my last Pioneer broke after the 2 year warranty was up. This will at least guarantee I'll get 3 years of good service out of it before it explodes, or something. My look seems to go that way.

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#387760 - 01/04/13 04:57 PM Re: CatBrat [Re: CatBrat]
Gary Vose Sr Offline
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Good deal!

Now I know you have had some past experience with Pioneer receivers, so I have some questions for you, and anybody else who may have knowledge on this matter as well. During the initial set up, what does the Mcacc programming do for dual subs? I know they aren't treated independently, are distances set for each?I read there is no sub Eqing, is there a work around for this and if so what can be done?
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#387763 - 01/04/13 05:19 PM Re: CatBrat [Re: CatBrat]
CatBrat Offline
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So far, my only experience with Pioneer Elite was a model VSX 21 TXH. It only had output for 1 sub, with no special sub measurements.

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#387764 - 01/04/13 05:24 PM Re: CatBrat [Re: CatBrat]
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Been pondering replacing my dining room table and chairs. I've had them since about the year 2001 and seats 6, only 5 chairs though. It's huge and a center piece makes it even huger. Would seat 8 or 10 then. I rarely have that many people over for dinner. Maybe once a year at the most. Has an interesting design in it from patched in wood pieces, with an ultra smooth and shiny surface. Made in Italy. Got it for a steal from a bad salesman from a store that was going out of business for about half price at the time. But, I've grown tired of looking at it, and it just gets in the way.

So, thinking about downsizing with maybe a small table, round or square with a single center support.

Here's an interesting site for dining room tables that I stumbled upon where they are made out of solid wood. I'm not planning on paying that much. Just looking at the moment for ideas.


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#387808 - 01/05/13 05:52 PM Re: CatBrat [Re: CatBrat]
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I ran the frequency sweep with the RadioShack digital meter in the same position as Audyssey's #1 mike position when calibrating. Meter pointed straight ahead. For freq sweep, I used Rives Audio test CD#2, tracks 32 thru 62. Those adjusted for the Ratshack meter.

Look at what Audyssey does at 200 hz. That could be my problem right there. Cutting certain bass might have the same effect as boosting certain treble. I'm going to listen with Audyssey off for a while.

I'm listing decibels with Audyssey on, decibels with Audyssey off, frequency tone in HZ.

83 73 20
84 75 25
87 79 31.5
82 74 40
87 80 50
88 89 63
77 78 80
76 70 100
83 83 125
81 81 160
64 76 200
80 82 250
81 83 315
84 81 400
65 69 500
79 81 630
69 71 800
81 81 1000
78 75 1250
81 78 1600
79 76 2000
82 83 2500
85 81 3150
87 84 4000
81 70 5000
95 89 6300
86 84 8000
82 82 10000
74 74 12500
63 70 16000
57 55 20000

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