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#386516 - 12/03/12 06:28 PM
Canadians, what is wrong with you?
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veteran
Registered: 05/31/02
Posts: 100
Loc: San Carlos, IL
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I have always looked to Canada as the sensible, yet still cool neighbor to the north. Sensible politics, logical health care system, good music, fantastic speakers. Kinda like a cool, older brother who just says his O's funny.
But then I found out something that has left me crestfallen, broken-down and disheartened: MOST CANADIANS RENT THEIR HOT WATER HEATERS!!!! And yes, it deserves all caps. Of all the things sensible Canadians do well, they are taken like rubes at a carney by renting a product that is easily cheaper to buy than rent.
One service, Direct Energy, charges over $15 a month for a water heater. Direct Energy has over 1.4 million customers in Ontario. So that's $180 a year for a product that lasts 10-15 years and is virtually maintenance free.
We just paid $750 for a top of the line 50 gallon water heater (heater and labor installation costs included). Barring any substantial mishap (our last heater lasted 12 years), we are paying $5.20 per month or approx $62.50 per year to own our water heater, or at a Direct energy customers rate of pay, we will have paid off the water heater in a little over 4 years.
Canadians are raked over the coals leasing water heaters. It's horribly irresponsible. Canadians, I thought I knew you. Please tell me you don't fall for those Nigerian $$$ scams too. Please tell me you are the cool brother I thought you were.
Edited by DL30 (12/03/12 06:29 PM)
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#386522 - 12/03/12 07:58 PM
Re: Canadians, what is wrong with you?
[Re: DL30]
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connoisseur
Registered: 05/16/02
Posts: 1093
Loc: Ontario, Canada
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Ah, younger brother's. Always thinking you've got everything figured out.  There are a number of reasons why, (at least here in ontario) we rent. 1) Our water is incredibly hard. Even with a softener, most tanks only last 8 to 10 years. The company I work for changes out ~10 per week, and 90% of them are of this vintage. 2) Crap is more expensive here. A quality 50 gallon, natural gas, power vented tank, would cost around $2300 PLUS TAX to have installed. Once the government gets paid, that's $2600 out of pocket. 3) Canadians love credit. Even more than you do. The non-mortgage debt load of the average Canadian is $26,000. We hate paying for stuff out right. Ok, the last comment was presumptuous, but the $26k is legit. The average Joe just doesn't have the dough to pay cash. So there it is. $2600 amortized over 10 years is just over $21 per month. And in just 6 to 8 years, the warranty is already over. The rental payment covers 100% of all repairs, and emergency replacement if the thing fails. We're ok with that. Let me know if you need me to score you a fake ID, get you into the strip club, or run interference with the old man. Luv ya brother!
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#386523 - 12/03/12 08:02 PM
Re: Canadians, what is wrong with you?
[Re: DL30]
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connoisseur
Registered: 05/16/02
Posts: 1093
Loc: Ontario, Canada
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And we will have to have a talk about what you consider "sensible politics". LOL
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#386542 - 12/03/12 10:54 PM
Re: Canadians, what is wrong with you?
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veteran
Registered: 05/31/02
Posts: 100
Loc: San Carlos, IL
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Bro,
Thanks for the reply. Surely in the spirit of capitalism someone has to try to make a buck off of sellling inexpensive water heaters. Maybe I've found my career calling?
Can you get me a case of beer so I can think about the implications of what you've said?
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#386545 - 12/03/12 11:49 PM
Re: Canadians, what is wrong with you?
[Re: DL30]
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shareholder in the making
Registered: 12/26/03
Posts: 10345
Loc: Calgary, Alberta
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There is more to Canada than Ontario, never heard of renting a water heater here in Alberta.
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#386546 - 12/04/12 01:03 AM
Re: Canadians, what is wrong with you?
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old hand
Registered: 03/16/07
Posts: 98
Loc: West Kelowna, BC
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I have owned homes in four provinces and never heard of a HW heater rental. And sorry Shawn but 2600.00 for a convential heater seems way over the top. In my last place, I got ten years out of 375.00 heater twice.
Just my opinion anyway.
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#386554 - 12/04/12 07:42 AM
Re: Canadians, what is wrong with you?
[Re: DL30]
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axiomite
Registered: 10/05/06
Posts: 6166
Loc: PEI, Canada
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Me neither. Never heard of renting a water heater. At least not at a residential level.
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#386563 - 12/04/12 09:42 AM
Re: Canadians, what is wrong with you?
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veteran
Registered: 05/31/02
Posts: 100
Loc: San Carlos, IL
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Well, I have read the majority of people in Ontario rent water heaters. You guys need some type of Occupy Ottowa thing to bring awareness to the gov't of this mass inefficiency.
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#386565 - 12/04/12 10:10 AM
Re: Canadians, what is wrong with you?
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axiomite
Registered: 10/05/06
Posts: 6166
Loc: PEI, Canada
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Well, as long as you researched one of our thirteen provinces and territories, I'm sure you got it right. And you wonder why we film things like this.......... Rick Mercer -- Talking to Americans.
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#386567 - 12/04/12 10:29 AM
Re: Canadians, what is wrong with you?
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shareholder in the making
Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 17373
Loc: NoVA
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I don't know why you film things like that, because your link is no good.
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