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#48553 - 06/08/04 12:13 AM 6.1 Receivers
real80sman Offline
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Registered: 05/16/02
Posts: 1115
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Ok, I have about $400cdn ($60US hehe) for a new surround receiver. I have narrowed it down to Yamaha's RX-V740, or Onkyo's TX-SR601, or Denon's 1804

What are your thoughts? I prefer the Amps in the Onkyo & Denon, but I really like the fact that the Yammy has pre-outs. This is a huge plus for me, as I have plans for separate power amps some day (a long, long way off). But, I hate the fact that the crossover is fixed at 90Hz.

I have a soft spot for the Onkyo because of this review. The unit was tested with the M80's (which I have) as well as a VP150 & QS8's (coming).

I'm neutral on the Denon.

Please don't suggest larger / more expensive units. As much as I would love to, I'm afraid I can't wait to save any longer. If there are any suggestions on other units at this price point, please fire away.

Thanks in advance,
Shawn
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#48554 - 06/08/04 02:07 AM Re: 6.1 Receivers
barbarino2000 Offline
regular

Registered: 06/05/04
Posts: 7
Loc: Chicago, IL
Wow....I had the exact same decision to make. I chose the Yamaha, due to better heat-management. I will be housing it in an enclosed cabinet, and the Onkyo would have run much too hot.

Also, through eBay I was able to get the V740 brand new for a final cost of $424 (which included $28 sales tax, since the seller and I are both located in Illinois). I should be receiving it at the end of the week.

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#48555 - 06/08/04 02:25 AM Re: 6.1 Receivers
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Registered: 05/11/02
Posts: 10307
Shawn, if you can go just a little higher, consider the Yamaha 5760 , which meets all your specifications.
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#48556 - 06/08/04 10:37 AM Re: 6.1 Receivers
bigjohn Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 3016
Loc: San Angelo, TX
a refurb Onkyo 701 is also avail on macmall.com for $429. it has pre/pro capabilities and runs my M60's, VP150, and QS8's with ease.

dont be bothered by the refurb status. mine has no visible defects, and these refurb units are gone over with a fine tooth comb. i think they are actually better than the ones coming straight off the assembly line cause the get 'hands on' by techs.

give it a look.

oh, and of the choices you gave, i like the 601, and the 1804.

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#48557 - 06/08/04 04:10 PM Re: 6.1 Receivers
bugzyseg Offline
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Registered: 08/20/03
Posts: 74
Loc: CT USA
try www.JandR.com on Fridays ( look for "fRIDAY'S SALE ON THE RIGHT SIDE ) - JR had ONKYO 601 few times in the past for $300 USD free shipping
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#48558 - 06/08/04 06:43 PM Re: 6.1 Receivers
Ray3 Offline
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Registered: 02/02/04
Posts: 2816
Loc: Rochester, NY
Take a look at the Denon 2803 here . ecost is an authorized etailer for Denon refurb/b-stock gear and quite a number of folks have had excellent experiences with them on this board. The 2803 is a level above what you are looking at and has pre/pro capability. You save around $300 going this route on the 2803.

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#48559 - 06/09/04 04:48 PM Re: 6.1 Receivers
ravi_singh Offline
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Registered: 03/14/02
Posts: 1351
Loc: Montreal
i would definitely get the 2803. had i known about ecost, i would have purchased something similar when i was in the market, but unfortunately i bought something new. i have a great unit, but i could have had slightly better had i gone with a 2803 equivalent. Much better than yamaha, i would say, in the amp section and has all the pre outs you want.

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#48560 - 06/17/04 10:39 AM Re: 6.1 Receivers
proggy_99 Offline
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Registered: 06/14/04
Posts: 26
man, i was all ready to order the 2803 from ecost when I hit calculate shipping and saw the $50 shipping and $7 handling fees. Kind of makes it less of a good deal when you tack that on to the $449 cost =( Maybe I am just being picky. Is the receiver good at $500? Last receiver I had was a cheapy Yamaha (dont know number) that was about $200 new when I bought it at Bestbuy 6 years ago.

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#48561 - 06/17/04 10:41 AM Re: 6.1 Receivers
player8 Offline
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Registered: 01/19/04
Posts: 521
Loc: PHX/Flagstaff, AZ
I thought shipping was free if you spent over $25?

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#48562 - 06/17/04 12:21 PM Re: 6.1 Receivers
DoubleJ230 Offline
buff

Registered: 04/15/04
Posts: 44
Loc: Huntsville, AL
Evidently, because the 2803 is discounted or on clearance, it does not qualify for the free shipping. That really sucks. I am holding out for the Onkyo 801. I hope it comes back on ecost in the next couple months.
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#48563 - 06/17/04 12:37 PM Re: 6.1 Receivers
proggy_99 Offline
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Registered: 06/14/04
Posts: 26
i just called them.....since it is over 40 lbs, it breaks their max weight for free shipping. SHe said most of their receivers have a shipping cost =(

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#48564 - 06/17/04 12:52 PM Re: 6.1 Receivers
bigjohn Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 3016
Loc: San Angelo, TX
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instead of waiting on the onkyo 801 to go on sale, whay not just get the 701?? there are only 2 main difference between the two.. one, the 801 has the net card, which allows you to hook directly to yor computer and play music.. and 2, it is 7.1, and the 701 is only 6.1.. now , unless you are going to hook your computer up to your receiver, then essentially the 701 will be just as good. they havbe the same amount of watts, dsp modes, inputs/outputs, and same great remote.

you might wanna look at the 701 and 801 specs side by side, and you might be surprised how similar they are..

i have the 701, and it is awesome.. no probs, awes0ome remote, and easy to follow manual.. you cant go wrong with either decision, but for $429 bucks on macmall.com, the 701 is a total steal!!

bigjohn
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#48565 - 06/17/04 02:25 PM Re: 6.1 Receivers
proggy_99 Offline
hobbyist

Registered: 06/14/04
Posts: 26
$503 shipped, my Denon 2803 is "in wharehouse"! And so my first real HT experience at building a real system begins =D

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#48566 - 06/17/04 11:54 PM Re: 6.1 Receivers
proggy_99 Offline
hobbyist

Registered: 06/14/04
Posts: 26
hrrrm, looks like I need to make a quick call back to ecost tomorrow. I took it for granted when the CSR told me it was over 40 lbs, when tech specs place it at under 28. There will probably be another reason, but the reason the CSR gave me was wrong.

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#48567 - 06/18/04 09:55 AM Re: 6.1 Receivers
bugzyseg Offline
old hand

Registered: 08/20/03
Posts: 74
Loc: CT USA
ONKYO TX-SR701 THX $500 US at JandR.com
sorry for crosspost - just too good to miss
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#48568 - 06/18/04 10:01 AM Re: 6.1 Receivers
DoubleJ230 Offline
buff

Registered: 04/15/04
Posts: 44
Loc: Huntsville, AL
bigjohn...that is absolutely true, but I think that NetTune feature on the 801 is the reason I am holding out for it. I like the idea of being able to tune into the internet radio stations and play the mp3's off of my PC.

Plus I have time to wait. I just started construction on a new house and probably will not be moving in until about October. Until then I am patiently waiting to go ahead and get the factory outlet Axioms and maybe catch a good deal on a receiver.

I have some pics of my construction if anyone wants to check it out. I can post a link. Thanks for the advice though bigjohn...if the 801 doesn't work out, it will wither be the Onkyo 701 or Denon 2803.

Jason
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#48569 - 06/18/04 10:13 AM Re: 6.1 Receivers
bigjohn Offline
connoisseur

Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 3016
Loc: San Angelo, TX
double-

thats cool.. i had/have no intentions of ever hooking up to the computer, so the nettune was not a factor for me. but, its all about what YOU need, so if the 801 is for you, then go with it.

as far as the ONKYO name itself, i think they have some great quality equip. you wont be disappointed there.

please keep us informed of your progress, and of course, pics are mandatory

bigjohn
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#48570 - 06/18/04 08:31 PM Re: 6.1 Receivers
JohnK Offline
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Registered: 05/11/02
Posts: 10307
Jason, listening to internet radio is also very important to me since when I'm at the computer I'm almost always listening to music streamed by classical stations from all over the world. However, this doesn't necessarily have to be a crucial factor in picking a receiver. None of my receivers have a USB input port, so I use a HiFi-Link(Xitel.com)which takes the digital output from my computer's USB output port, converts it, and feeds audio input ports on one of my receivers. It's available in both stereo(about $40) and multi-channel(about$80)versions. Something to consider.
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