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#54159 - 11/12/04 07:19 PM Re: OT: politics
Zarak Offline
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Registered: 03/09/03
Posts: 1849
Loc: PA
In reply to:

America's the best and can do no wrong.




The second half of that statement is why you get a lot of people disagreeing with you on here. I agree that America is the best, but that certainly does not mean that America can do no wrong. No person or country is perfect. There are always some things that are not done correctly or that could be improved.

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#54160 - 11/12/04 07:27 PM Re: OT: politics
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Registered: 03/16/02
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Loc: CA, USA
Zarak, easy there. I think BigWill knows that already. He's not pulling your leg because he wants a date, you know.
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#54161 - 04/14/05 08:16 PM Re: OT: politics
Zarak Offline
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Loc: PA
I believe this is the thread someone was mentioning bringing back over in the car thread

I thought this one was very enjoyable, so fire away. Should we be drilling in Alaska for oil or not?

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#54162 - 04/14/05 08:36 PM Re: OT: politics
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Registered: 04/01/03
Posts: 5214
Loc: Los Angeles
No. Our efforts should be focused on alternative sources of energy. Leave the oil in the ground where it belongs...dirty, nasty stuff.


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#54163 - 04/14/05 11:53 PM Re: OT: politics
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Registered: 05/01/03
Posts: 1951
Loc: Corona, Calif. USA!!!
Oh... WTF!

"Should we be drilling in Alaska for oil or not?"

Why Not?


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#54164 - 04/15/05 12:06 AM Re: OT: politics
bigjohn Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 3016
Loc: San Angelo, TX
they are finding alternate energy sources.. Biodiesel is a perfect example. but, it is getting a luke-warm response. not only from the public, but from the gas stations and pumping facilities that are vital to its survival.

please dont fool yourself into thinking that the govt is even remotely serious about trying to find 'alternatives' to oil/gas/petroleum. i would guess that at least 10-15% of the entire worlds finances is based on oil based products.. so, until they are literally forced to make the change, they are gonna keep drilling holes in the earth til she is totally tapped out.. its sad but true.

so, that leaves us with three options..
1.- keep paying outrageous prices to other people for 'their' oil.
2.- invade and conquer other peoples lands and make 'their' oil, 'our' oil.(PS-bush is currently in the process of trying to do that)
3.- or, drill for it on our OWN F'ING LAND!!

these are just my opinions.. but its good to see this thread again.. i just didnt want to be the one to bring it back to life.

bigjohn

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#54165 - 04/15/05 01:51 AM Re: OT: politics
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Registered: 04/02/03
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Oh, for the love of God. Start a new thread! This beast is too hairy. And pale after being buried for so long.
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#54166 - 04/15/05 07:26 AM Re: OT: politics
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Registered: 12/01/04
Posts: 540
Loc: Richmond, VA
that bio-diesel comment make me remember an article i read in Discover magazine. some guy firgured out a way to take leftovers from a turkey processing plant, grind it up, cook that nasty mix, and in the end get oil out. i don't it came out great in the cost vs. returns world, but it's still an intersting idea. in the meantime, more nuclear plants (and more pay for their operators! )
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#54167 - 04/15/05 11:43 AM Re: OT: politics
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Registered: 12/15/03
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Just by tapping Anwar, and some already proven reserves in the Gulf Of Mexico, By 2010, we could be producing 6 millions barrels per day. These numbers are from a think tank of private and government researchers ... THEY also estimate another 5 million barrels per day can be had off the coast of California.

Add in the increasing use of Hybrid technology, and this entire probelm could easily be solved in 5-7 years.
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#54168 - 04/15/05 11:53 AM Re: OT: politics
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Registered: 01/21/04
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Loc: San Angelo, TX
so, are you saying we could get plenty of oil without drilling in alaska.. or, were you just making a general statement about the amount of oil available to us?

bigjohn
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