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#86088 - 03/21/05 05:03 PM Re: Sound differences between M80s and M60s?
michael_d Offline
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Registered: 07/23/04
Posts: 3875
Loc: Up yonder
I use my 80’s for stereo only. Room size is 28 X 32 with a vaulted ceiling. I’m also running an Outlaw LFM-1 sub. I have no idea how they sound compared to the 60’s. My listening tastes vary from alternative rock to country. About the only complaint I have is that ….AT TIMES….they tend to be a little too bright with some songs that have a lot of cymbals. But this is only when I have them running above 110 dbs. Again, this is not very often and only with a few songs. As far as being able to fill a room with sound, I simply can not imagine “needing” the 80’s to fill a room smaller than a gymnasium. My HK is rated at 100 per channel at 8 ohms, but is reported to be closer to 150 at 8 ohms. Don’t recall the 4 ohm rating. I have not, can not, and probably will not ever turn the HK up over 50%. It’s simply too loud…….and I like to sit in the front row, right next to the speakers at AC/DC concerts.

Placement wasn’t an issue for me, other than making them look right with the furniture layout. The only noticeable placement issue I had was having to move them about 18” away from the wall. This definitely made a difference in SQ.

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#86089 - 03/21/05 05:22 PM Re: Sound differences between M80s and M60s?
bridgman Offline
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Registered: 08/25/04
Posts: 5279
Loc: Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada
>>The only noticeable placement issue I had was having to move them about 18” away from the wall. This definitely made a difference in SQ.

I think that IS the main issue with M80s. They're pretty deep, so if the back of the speaker is 18" away from the wall the fronts need to be 3 feet or more into the room.

M60s aren't *that* much different but they are a little less deep and they can go a little closer to the back wall... and they are a little smaller so they don't look quite as imposing sitting 4 feet into the room

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#86090 - 03/22/05 01:48 AM Re: Sound differences between M80s and M60s?
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Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 17739
Loc: NoVA
As my only basis for comparison, the M80s didn't look all that big at Dennis' place. Then I came home and the M50s looked positively tiny... I can't imagine what Peter thought!
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#86091 - 03/22/05 05:33 AM Re: Sound differences between M80s and M60s?
Tharkun Offline
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Registered: 01/05/05
Posts: 1039
Loc: Tracy, California
Perhaps its just my room, but I have had the front M80s the 16" - 18' from the wall and also less, they have been left at about 8" - 10" from the walls. I can not notice any differance, so have left them close to the walls. But like I mentioned to Peter and Ken, if I start getting to critical about the SQ, I just walk over and turn up the volume. LOL
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#86092 - 03/22/05 10:54 AM Re: Sound differences between M80s and M60s?
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Registered: 08/25/04
Posts: 5279
Loc: Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada
Yep... I'm guessing that's because you have them fairly far away from side walls. I don't have any direct experience placing M80s, just started to see some patterns with the people who felt M80s were too boomy -- they all seemed to be near to side walls and really near to the back wall.

It definitely does vary from room to room. We're all guessing here

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#86093 - 03/25/05 08:52 PM Re: Sound differences between M80s and M60s?
michael_d Offline
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Registered: 07/23/04
Posts: 3875
Loc: Up yonder
Mine are placed in front of the fireplace hearth. The hearth is about 18” high and 18” in depth from the fireplace. That may be why I noticed such a difference. The lower port was closer to the hearth, while the upper port was considerably further away from anything. When I moved them away, the difference was like night and day. I just measured the distance and they are sitting 12” away from the hearth.
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#86094 - 03/29/05 02:08 PM Re: Sound differences between M80s and M60s?
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Registered: 02/03/05
Posts: 4
join the M80Posse!!!

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#86095 - 03/29/05 02:17 PM Re: Sound differences between M80s and M60s?
bridgman Offline
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Registered: 08/25/04
Posts: 5279
Loc: Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada
Hold on, who says M80s get their own posse ?

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#86096 - 04/03/05 07:43 PM Re: Sound differences between M80s and M60s?
warfer21 Offline
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Registered: 10/14/04
Posts: 139
Loc: T. Bay , ON
<<< For now I am in the very early stages of planning and I have so much to learn and am searching for any and all imput, so be ready for some off-the-wall questions and ideas in the upcoming months. >>>

BrotherBob I'm going to be following your posts.

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#86097 - 04/03/05 08:05 PM Re: Sound differences between M80s and M60s?
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Registered: 02/26/05
Posts: 5210
Loc: Vero Beach, Florida
Warfer21, I went with the Rotel RB-1080 amp and the Rotel RC-1070 preamp...for a couple of reasons. I've read and heard good reviews, they are a reputable company and the nearest dealer of any kind to me was the Rotel dealer. I wanted to look at Parasound but the nearest dealer was over 100 miles from me, whereas the Rotel is only about 30. The dealer had the 1080 connected up to a pair of B&W speakers and after fooling with and listening to this amp for an hour or so I thought I did good.

The 80s will be ordered this coming week and as far as a sub, I'm holding off on one for the time being to see if I may like the stereo only system without one.

I have some other accessories to come up with cables and etc...so hopefully here in a little while she'll be up and running. I'll keep you posted!


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