Magnificent.

"I love you, Alex Rogan!"

I laughed out lout when the flight engineer was trying to restore power in the gunstar and he held up a circuit board with some leds and a 9 volt battery snap connector.

I loved every minute.

How the hell did that get released on Bluray??

At a buck rental it was not worth it.

I LIKED the cheesiness of that movie. Of course it's been like 25 years since I've seen it, so my perception might be off...

Cheesy is an understatement. The musical score ripped off raiders of the lost ark. But the story is good. And as silly as this movie is I wish more modern movies could tell a story this well.

Hey, c'mon...it got 4 1/2 out of 5 Starfighters on Amazon!

Is "Cheesy" the new "good"?

I liked that movie a lot back in the day..BR is cool..

I liked it when I was a kid. I'm kinda afraid to watch it now.

I recall not liking it as a kid and I was a HUGE SciFi nerd. I can't really remember why though so perhaps I'll watch it again. What could happen?

I liked it as a kid, but now that I am re-remembering it, I am sure that it would seem so full of cheese and low budget feel if I watched it again today.

Hmm... maybe its an age/scifi fan thing for me. I wasn't a kid when I watched it, and it fails as scifi, at least to me.

I bought The Last Starfighter on blu-ray about 2 years ago. Used to have it on VHS. I still think it's a fun movie to watch.

I watched 'African Queen' on Blu-Ray (colourized version) the other night. Still a great story if not a bit hokey by today's standards.

Interestingly the only soundtrack option was 2.0 Stereo using only my M22s, but it did not detract in any way. In fact, the dialogue was clearer than 80% of the modern stuff that I've experienced lately.

While I like today's technology, sometimes I think that the audio mixing guys are trying to jam in too much with multi-channel soundtracks that can result in a jumbled audio mess at times...

TAM

Wasn't scifi? Space ships, aliens, cars that fly? Scifi!

OK, not good, but then again neither is Dr. Who and a bunch of you all like that stuff. Don't get me wrong, I tried to watch it. But a few years ago, I watched as some cheesy "plastic monster" and mannequins coming to life. Then the aliens that looked like people but had zippers up their backs and farted all of the time. Yeah, that is quality TV right there. After 4 episodes, I quit.

Aww, don't let the Slitheen put you off. C'mon, you watched the first 4 episodes they'd made in 20 years. Of course the early ones will have a few issues.

Lab,
I agree about old movies. They may not have had fancy sound but the dialog is perfectly clear and intelligible. The lighting was damn good too.

Not to mention the camera work. You didn't get dizzy watching them.

THEY MADE STEADI-CAMS FOR A REASON, PEOPLE.

That tv show "V" used to scare the pants off of me.
The recent version really sucked.

I think your ranting at the wrong person. Poor Fred isn't a Doctor Who fan, (Well maybe he is and I just don't know it.) and since I'm assuming you are 'mostly' venting at me, I never said that the movie "failed". I just said I recalled not liking it but I was even willing to try it again....

I'll give you one thing though. That mannequin Season 1 episode was a disaster. I refuse to acknowledge it exists. WEll, except this once and only to say it shouldn't exist. In fact, I too struggled with the first several episodes but eventually, the imaginative story lines and the witty banter grew on me.

The semi-modernized monster costumes have a certain bit of cheesiness remaining in them on purpose to honor the original series that was famous for it's super low budget effects. It's a balance effect that tips the scale in one direction or the other sometimes. Too modern the hard core fans complain, too cheesy, people like you complain.

Anywhoo,
I like it, you hate it. That's what I love about the world. Diversty. All is good.

/Agree
I was going to make a silly remark about how watching people shed skin to reveal a lizard inside just no longer has shock value any more with today's audiences but after hearing about the two seven year old boys who were killed by an escaped python over the weekend, it just doesn't seem like a good thing to make fun of right now.

Actually, I was just poking fun at people saying it wasn't scifi or "failed" to be scifi.

Oh, and I am still not going to watch Dr. Who.

Yeah, for some reason someone(s) at the Beeb have an extraordinary interest in the Autons and/or the Nestene Consciousness. They chose that episode (of all episodes) to show for the 3rd Doctor, too.

I'd say "Dalek" was when the new series really started to hit its stride and show its potential.

Hey, I can't say anything as someone who bought the Lost in Space series on DVD and even liked Land of the Lost as a kid!

Sleestacks Rule!

I have a couple of seasons of the "Outer Limits" somewhere.

:: In best movie critics voice::

In order to be good, any fiction needs to get you to 'suspend your belief in truth' for the duration of the story. The Jetson's wasn't scifi either.

::walks away with nose in air::

What can I say, when it comes to scifi I'm picky.

Did... you just compare Doctor Who to the Jetsons???

THIS MEANS WAR!

Uh-oh.

Looks like an old-fashioned Who-down!

Exterminate EXTERMINATE!!!!!

But isn't the word SciFi derived from two words: Science and Fiction.

Both have science elements in them, and are fiction. (I know, I know, sorry kids, but The Jetsons aren't real.

So technically they are SciFi... Good SciFi? That is a whole different question. I did like The Jetsons when I was a kid. Dr. Who and The Last Starfighter? Meh...

Yup. I threw that one out there two. Maybe The Last Starfighter and The Jetsons will team up against the Doctor in this epic battle. (Maybe they should have an Epic Rap Battle of History about it. YouTube that if you don't know what it is.)

Here is Doc Brown vs. Dr. Who:
Epic Rap Battle of History Doc vs. Doctor

You guys are adorkable.

Incidentally, just watched Back to the Future with my kids the other night.

I don't think they understood most of it.

Probably for the best.

But seriously, discounting Doctor Who because of the first 4 eps? That's like discounting TNG based on the first season.

Or the second season.

Or the third... oh well, you get it.

Leave TNG out of it.

Hey, I love TNG. I'm just saying the first few seasons were a little uneven at best. Same with DS9 and Voyager.

Pretty soon Dr. Who will be put up against pretty much every sci-fi show. LOL

You know that the plastic special effects were better in Predator than Dr. Who's special effects, and Predator had those goofy long fingers that the actor couldn't articulate. Boom!

(I am just messing with your guys.)

Don't let it get to you.

Um actually, wait a sec.... Here we go.
“Letting it get to you. You know what that’s called? Being alive. Best thing there is. Being alive right now is all that counts.”
— The Doctor, Season 6, Episode 4

That's one of the things I like about the show. Like Sienfeld or The Simpsons, it has a quote for absolutely any situation.

Would you continue to date a woman after the first few dates were bad? There's probably many women who don't make a good first impression but who would be great in a long-term relationship.

TV shows are not people, though, so this is probably a bad analogy.

I think we need to make a car analogy.

Let's do a car analogy!

yes, sometimes you need a car.

Mickey Smith: Okay, no time to explain, we need to get inside the school. Do you have, like, I don't know, a lock picking device?
K9: We are in a car.
Mickey Smith: Maybe a drill attachment?
K9: We are in a car.
Mickey Smith: Fat lot of good you are
K9: We are in a car.
Mickey Smith: Wait a second. We're in a car.
K9: Affirmative.
Mickey Smith: [shouts out window] Get back!
[crashes car through main doors]

Yeah, that was awesome.

Pinto!

'nuf said

(Again, just messing with you guys.)

Oh wait, I didn't compare anything...

Dr Who can be the Pinto, FIRE can be what they should do with the writers, special effects people....

Ba-dum-dum...

(Still just messing with you Dr Who fans.)

DS9 and Voyager are fair game. Save the jugs.

After reading this thread, I'm gonna have to listen to Frank Zappa's "Cheepnis" again.

Mmmmm! Hasenpfeffer.

Actually, I think they modeled the Jetson's hover car after the Pacer.

For the Dr. Who fans.

Oh my... They have their own union... A union that makes perfect copies of imperfectly made, cheap robots.

that is probably harder than replicating something that was made with precision and not meant to look like an odd shaped box with styrofoam ball halves glued to it, with a toilet plunger for the right hand of the guy inside, and some random stuff (which actually looks OK) for their left hand to manipulate.

OK. I will really stop ripping on Dr. Who. There is a large population of people that really like the show, and that is great. It is obviously fitting a niche there.

Besides, I've got my own TV show that is just rediculous. My family and I have been watching Revolution on TV. (between seasons right now) That show has some of the worst writing, so many plot holes, so many bipolar characters (anyone can flip from sane to insane, calm to psychotic, rational to unrational, etc in seconds just to fit the bad writting. We sit there, as a family, and even say outloud, "Why are we watching this? It is so bad." Yet we still watch it.

Niche? Well maybe, but one that's been around for 50 years.

Crazy Ford Mustangs and thier silly 50 year old niche product. They should stop making those cars cause not everybody likes them. they should only make a car that everyone likes.

Car Analogy FTW!!!

Well, Mustangs do suck.

<ducks rotten fruit>

Above quote, "they should only make a car that everyone likes."

Toyota FJ Cruisers for everybody!

Those things are hideous.

This time, Ken, you can be the one throwing the rotten fruit!

Rotten fruit sucks.

I think that I just puked in my mouth....

Hmmm. I think that they're cool. Can't wait to get one. The picture is a 2003 model. They've changed a little since then.

I personally do not like the look but I will stick up for you Cat in that they are extremely capable off road vehicles right from off the lot. Although I know that wasn't a concern of yours. I've shared trails with a few and the soft suspension with good clearance really works well. Although you will probably not like what the soft suspension does for cornering.

One thing though, the tires in that particular pic would be absolutely useless for anything but sand. Of course, I'm sure they probably are not stock.

Avoid the 2008 and 2009 models for reasons that I probably don't have to explain.

I have to agree with Brian, I like the way they look. Its got personality.

A car should not have more personality than its driver.

Well, there go my Maserati dreams ...

Ya know, every something purely awesome can be made into a full on turd.

Bugatti Veyron in pink ugliness:


And some things boring and dull, can't be fixed no matter what. Here is a Honda Civic. I loved the tag under the original photo I saw "Only missing 14.9L of engine displacement."


I wonder which on the doctor would drive?

Correct answer: Neither.
He has his Turdis: <--See what I did there?

Nonsense. The Doctor drives Bessie.

The 3rd doc maybe:

'Zactly.

So that lie unraveled fairly quickly.

Crap, I did say that didn't I?

Maybe next week I will stop.

I remember the first time I test drove an FJ. Sidewalk in the way? No problem, didn't even feel a bump.

I had just test drove all of the other suv's that I had my eye on, which were several of them. They drove ok. Some more comfy than the others. Some you could feel the road more than the others. Then I tried an FJ just at a whim, since I saw one on the lot. It was one of those times where I couldn't stop smiling on the inside. It drove like a dream compared to the other ones. And made you feel like you were driving a tank that could go anywhere.

You should buy something that'll make you happy. I saw an all black FJ in town the other day. I think that's the best color since all the strange angles of the body sort of become invisible.

Love the angles.

I'll probably get an all white one.

Cat, That is the one I would get too. I love it.

A walk around video of an FJ Cruiser.

They don't sell tanks to civilians.

That guy has car salesman written all over his semi-comb-over.

Why do all car and home appliance salesmen have hair like that? I swear it's part of a genetic marker that leads people into those particular jobs.

I wonder if those type of people watch Dr. Who?

Probably not. Dr. Who fans aren't as trendy with the pink shirt/tie combos, and don't appreciate the important things like the "TOYOTA" word logo on the grill instead of just the Toyota symbol logo.

For the record if you have enough money you can purchase tanks.

Boo-yah

You'd have a hard time making one street legal, though.

"Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads!"

Um, there is a guy with a street legal tank...

It is #2 on the list in the link below.

http://www.cracked.com/article_20156_8-insane-vehicles-you-wont-believe-are-street-legal_p2.html

Those are awesome.

Speaking of "tanks"... Here is something that looks like it should have been deep sixed...



There are lots of puns about being "tanked" here, but I will let you figured them all out.

EDIT:
This started as a post to torture Nick with a Doctor Who spoof, music video. However, rather then torment him with lousy music and spoofery, here is a well done fan preview of the coming season. As you can see, the zipper costumes and fart humor has long been abandoned over the newer seasons.

The Last Great Time War

I don't expect you to convert. Nor should you. I just wanted to show that the entire series is no longer what it began as.

I'd hate that TANK to run over my foot.

I'm glad to see this thread has taken a turn to the useful. I've now officially changed my 'if I win the lottery' car to a tank. If you're gonna turn heads on the road...

Yeah, I was talking to another Axiomite on Facebook (whom shall remain nameless) and I told him that I was just doing the anti-Dr. Who stuff to stir the pot and at the time there was very little happening here on the forums.

Glad you could take it all in stride.

"I'm glad to see this thread has taken a turn to the useful."


Lampy<-------sniff

<Ben Stein>I will destroy you. </Ben Stein>

Now he would have been a great candidate for the new 'elderly' Doctor. Not a final choice maybe, but I bet the audition would have been hilarious.

Arnold Schwarznegger as Doctor Who!

(LOL)

Terminator VS. The Daleks.

i'm still waiting for someone to review the Last Starfighter bluray version.

It's in the first post. Rather short review, but there you are.

You're saying i have to scroll all the way back?
ah screw it

For the Dr. Who fans...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TySLmj2ZWIo


Spoiler: Not sure why she is crying blood near the end, but...

For someone who hates Doctor Who, you sure spend a lot of time searching for it on Youtube.

It did make me smile though.

What is funny is that it came up as a "suggested" video. Considering I haven't searched for anything Dr Who related in a while, I was surprised too.

Review of the last starfighter movie in blu-ray:

I bought and watched it about 2 years ago. It looked a lot like the DVD version, which looked a lot like the VHS version.

which looked a lot like the live puppet theater version.

Which looks a lot like currect special effects in Dr. Who.

(Sorry, I had to.)

Bait set and taken !!

So easy.

Yup. I'm a sucker like that.