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Posted By: twodan19 Nemo and dialog question - 11/08/03 12:37 PM
watched nemo last night, and was blown away. however, my wife and i asked each other several times "did you understand what he just said". i did bump up the center channel 2 notches, and i'm using a vp100 with 2 60's and 2 qs8's. was it my system, or did others experience the same?
dan
Posted By: mwc Re: Nemo and dialog question - 11/08/03 01:38 PM
I don't have an Axiom center speaker but I had no problems with the center ch. dialogue on this movie. However, I do have a problem with certain TV shows such as the West Wing where the voices are utterly frustrating to understand. Most TV shows are ok but the West Wing drives me crazy because it often sounds like the characters are mumbling.
Posted By: gem41573 Re: Nemo and dialog question - 11/08/03 02:43 PM
Watched Nemo last night too (cool flick by the way), and while I didn't notice any intelligebility problems (VP-150), I did find the dialogue a bit lower than the effects. I didn't bump up the center, but contemplated it.

By the way, the bass in the scene where the girl knocks on the aquarium was unreal. Shook my whole apartment.
Posted By: sushi Re: Nemo and dialog question - 11/08/03 02:56 PM
Time to upgrade to the VP150???
Posted By: mhorgel Re: Nemo and dialog question - 11/08/03 03:42 PM
I have a similar setup (vp100, 60's, QS4's), and did not have any problem with the dialogue.

Mark
Posted By: twodan19 Re: Nemo and dialog question - 11/08/03 04:16 PM
it's on my wish list.
Posted By: tinfoilhat Re: Nemo and dialog question - 11/09/03 07:58 AM
I had a slight problem with the baby sea-turtle a few times, but the rest seemed clear.
Posted By: Hawkson101 Re: Nemo and dialog question - 11/13/03 03:23 AM
whats your reciever

Posted By: tinfoilhat Re: Nemo and dialog question - 11/13/03 07:23 AM
Denon 1802
Posted By: Ken.C Re: Nemo and dialog question - 11/13/03 09:48 PM
Wouldn't think that would matter at all unless the receiver really, really sucked.
Posted By: Pinoy Re: Nemo and dialog question - 11/13/03 09:51 PM
I experienced that problem before on my VP150 and I am using a Denon 3803. I shipped my receiver to Denon and they did not find any problem with the center channel but they said they upgraded my software.

Joe also helped out to determine if my VP150 tweeters are damaged, and we found no problem. Unless something is wrong with your VP100 you should be able to clearly hear the dialogues.

I subsequently found out that the dialogue from the center channel changes characteristics as you change the setting, i.e. widescreen will have different sound from prologic II, DTS-ES etc. Your receiver should automatically detect the source but if you manually change it this center channel sound degradation could happen.

Your problem might be different but this is something you could check.
Posted By: twodan19 Re: Nemo and dialog question - 11/13/03 10:08 PM
the yammi is set for auto detect, but i did notice this was the first time "EX" lit up on it's display while playing this disc. usually we have no problems with the vp100. even in 6 channel while watching tv, it's ok. the other night, the kids did watched nemo at a lower volume, and the dialog was better balanced (for lack of another term). maybe the vp100 couldn't play as loud as the 60's and 8's?
Posted By: ValueCanuck1 Re: Nemo and dialog question - 11/15/03 03:10 PM
Picked Nemo up for my daughter yesterday and put it on for her last night. I spent the entire movie turning it up because my daughter couldn't hear the dialogue and then turning it back down when my wife screamed that the action sequences were too loud.

I tried setting the Dynamic Range Compression to max but it didn't help.

I have not had this problem with any other Pixar movies, or any other Disney movies for that matter. I think they didn't get the mix quite right on Nemo.
Posted By: PeterChenoweth Re: Nemo and dialog question - 11/16/03 03:45 AM
My wife and I watched it last night. Good movie, quite cute and Pixar has done another amazing job. I had read the threads both here and other places about the dialog not being quite up to spec, so I was ready. Watching on our Energy Take 5 system (wife has made me promise to wait until Xmas for the yet-to-be-decided M22's or M60's...) w/ Pioneer Elite 43TX receiver in THX surround mode. That said, we didn't experience any dialog problems. I did notice when it started, my receiver reported a "Dial Norm -7", which I'm pretty sure has to do with the dialog normalization that's encoded into the DVD, and -7 is quite a bit negative. The only other movie I've watched where it did this was a -3. Maybe that has something to do with it? Anyway, I did think that when the baby sea turtle is explaining how to exit the ocean current to Marlin and Dorie that he's hard to understand, but since Marlin immediately says, "I think you're trying to tell me something but I have no idea what you just said!" (or something like that) leads me to believe that you're not *supposed* to comprehend what the baby sea turtle said completely.
Posted By: sushi Re: Nemo and dialog question - 11/17/03 12:18 AM
In reply to:

w/ Pioneer Elite 43TX receiver in THX surround mode.



The THX mode may well further decrease the clarity of dialogs, since the THX X-Curve re-equalization significantly rolls off treble frequencies. I would try the straight Dolby Digital mode.
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