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Posted By: audiosavant The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 02:29 AM
Has anyone noticed that when playing back music that every source has a "correct" volume?

By that I mean, the sweet spot.

Increase the volume just 1 more and it becomes too loud and blaring, decrease it 1 less (than the sweet spot) and you can't quite achieve lift-off. Not enough "grunt factor" to rock out (or jazz out or symphony out or country out or...) with.

It seems that each "source" has a perfect volume that varies.

Or is this just me?
Posted By: jakewash Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 02:49 AM
It is just you and your room ;\)

I have noticed that some source material does sound better at different volumes than others. Most likely those recording engineers having some fun at our expense ;\)
Posted By: BlueJays1 Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 03:18 AM
I would look at it more in the sense of the variations in the quality of the recording(s) itself rather than volume playback (though that varies as well). Music recordings have such inconsistent quality in this regards across genres.
Posted By: pmbuko Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 03:20 AM
There may be a sweet spot, but it varies according to mood, and also according to how loudly you've been listening lately.

Have you ever started up your car and couldn't believe how loudly you were listening to the stereo the last time you were in your car? Your ear/brain unit adjusts to loudness over time.
Posted By: St_PatGuy Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 03:50 AM
Yes, when I start my car up to go home from work I usually find I was blasting it in the morning to wake me up.
Posted By: audiosavant Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 05:21 AM
 Originally Posted By: pmbuko
There may be a sweet spot, but it varies according to mood,


BINGO!

After 4 glasses of wine and the ingestion of a cannabis cigarette...

... and I shall call it: "The Grunt Factor Threshold".

Sorta like achieving the correct speed to get airborne...

(results may vary)
Posted By: grunt Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 05:44 AM
Just make sure that you have about 4 different “brands” of cigarette. With a different mix of the good stuff in each brand you can stay airborne at a higher altitude longer, or so I've heard. ;\)

While results may vary they are usually very good. \:\)

Back on topic yes I find that different sources each have a volume that sounds just right a bit to high or low and it just doesn’t sound right.

Posted By: Adrian Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 12:36 PM
Some types of music beg to be played louder, like most Rock music. Playing Foreigner, Zeppelin, Doors ect at lower volumes just seems to lose some of the ambiance or power. On the other hand, I generally prefer to listen to acoustic music at a little more moderate levels, James Taylor, Leonard Cohen, Lightfoot, Dylan, Young ect.
Posted By: alan Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 03:28 PM
Hi audiosavant and all,

Yes, mood and previous listening levels all play a big role (as well as ingestion of various liquids or substances), but individually there is quite a range of how we describe subjective levels of loudness.

In past listening experiments at Canada's National Research Council with a number of colleagues, I found their preferred levels were about 3 dB louder than what I liked, so I'd move back to the second row of chairs.

Not to re-direct this thread, but another interesting aspect I've found over the years is that if you are buzzed on whatever, you tend to lose critical faculties and tolerate really degraded sound quality or crappy speakers.

I never do critical product listening tests at Axiom if I've ingested anything other than food or coffee.

Cheers!
Alan
Posted By: BlueJays1 Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 03:50 PM
I can't seem to listen to music as loud as I use to since a bad incident with tinnitus a few years ago. I am now very careful with volume levels for sustained periods as well as wearing hearing protection around loud tools or machinery ex. chainsaws. When I start to feel "a fullness" in the ears, I don't mess around anymore.
Posted By: EFalardeau Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 03:51 PM
 Originally Posted By: alan
I never do critical product listening tests at Axiom if I've ingested anything other than food or coffee.

Does that include brownies... ? \:\)
Posted By: alan Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 03:55 PM
Brownies are included so long as they don't have you-know-what in them. . .

Alan
Posted By: BlueJays1 Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 03:57 PM
 Originally Posted By: alan
Brownies are included so long as they don't have you-know-what in them. . .

Alan


Chocolate chips? ;\)
Posted By: medic8r Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 04:09 PM
Peanuts?

Those allergies can be heck.

;\)
Posted By: Ken.C Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 05:15 PM
Frosting.
Posted By: ClubNeon Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 05:46 PM
Frosting goes on, not in. But has no place around brownies.
Posted By: Ken.C Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 05:53 PM
Agreed. Brownies should be just brownies. Chocolate chips are good in them, though.
Posted By: CatBrat Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 06:18 PM
But definitely no nuts. The last time I bit into a brownie with nuts, it cost me over $1000 in tooth repair, after insurance and writeoffs.
Posted By: RayLewis Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 06:30 PM
Not that this thread has mentioned marijuana at all, but I've decided that if California legalizes pot I'm going there to try it out. I've never done pot, but a lot of TV shows (e.g., Entourage) and movies (anything with that dude from Zack and Miri Make a Porno) make it seem fun.

As to volume of music, my preferred volume definitely depends on a number of factors, including genre. However, I would disagree with Adrian on one point. I don't believe there are enough decibels in the world to give Foreigner either ambiance or power.
Posted By: MarkSJohnson Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 07:03 PM
Road trip!
Posted By: RickF Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 07:17 PM
Florida never legalized pot and I used to try it all the time ... it is fun.
Posted By: MarkSJohnson Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 07:20 PM
It's probably been 25 years "since" for me, but I'd really like to try it again!

Maybe I could just sit, relax and enjoy music again!
Posted By: RickF Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 07:25 PM
Last time I tried it we were down at the beach at night time and a boat was hauling butt right off of the beach and my neighbor kept telling me it was the police boat coming to get me ... "REALLY?!"

That's when I found out that you can't trust a 63 year old veterinarian.
Posted By: Adrian Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 07:34 PM
 Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson
It's probably been 25 years "since" for me, but I'd really like to try it again!

Same here. Maybe a reaffirmation party is required.
Posted By: MarkSJohnson Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 07:36 PM
I think we need an Axiom get-together in California.... after the law is passed! \:\)

Seriously...imagine the listening sessions and the snacks!
Posted By: Adrian Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 07:38 PM
and...and...miles and miles of silicone in every direction! \:D
Posted By: MarkSJohnson Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 07:40 PM
Dude...I'm so there....
Posted By: BlueJays1 Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 07:51 PM
My theory has always been is that unversities/colleges encourage drug use due to the overwhelming work load, the need to stay awake and need to cope with the amount of stress put on students these days. There is a reason it is called higher education ;\) .
Posted By: RayLewis Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 08:00 PM
Alright, sounds like an Axiom board member meeting is in the works.

Maybe if I try the stuff I'll understand what "spiritual messenger cats don't have rectums" means. And don't ruin it by explaining the meaning beforehand.
Posted By: RickF Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 08:02 PM
 Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson
Dude...I'm so there....

The 1st Annual 'Axiom Magic Bus Tour', coming through your town soon!

I can see it now.
Posted By: BlueJays1 Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 08:05 PM
Canada would be honoured ;\)
Posted By: MarkSJohnson Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 08:13 PM
 Originally Posted By: RickF

The 1st Annual 'Axiom Magic Bus Tour', coming through your town soon!

I can see it now.


Dude, if you can see it now, then you've started early! \:\)
Posted By: Ya_basta Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 10:17 PM
We need an Arizer !
Posted By: Glitchy Re: The "correct" volume? - 03/31/10 11:12 PM
 Originally Posted By: wheelz999
We need an Arizer !


Oh that's great very well done video!

Not on my buy list any more, but fun to watch!
Posted By: bridgman Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/01/10 12:31 AM
You know, someone starting on the second page of this thread would have absolutely no idea what it was about unless they went back to the first few posts.
Posted By: audiosavant Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/01/10 12:46 AM
 Originally Posted By: bridgman
You know, someone starting on the second page of this thread would have absolutely no idea what it was about unless they went back to the first few posts.


Hell, I started the thread and I've already forgotten!

Short-term memory impaired, lol. ;\)
Posted By: fredk Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/01/10 01:14 AM
Sooo, you're saying its a pretty normal thread.
Posted By: terzaghi Brownies with frosting? - 04/01/10 02:03 AM
I forget what the thread was about as well.
Posted By: BlueJays1 Re: Brownies with frosting? - 04/01/10 02:15 AM
 Originally Posted By: Scavenger Smoker
Hey guys, just stumbled across this forum. Wanna hang out sometime? PM me. \:D

Posted By: St_PatGuy Re: Brownies with frosting? - 04/01/10 04:09 AM
 Originally Posted By: Dr.House
 Originally Posted By: Scavenger Smoker
Hey guys, just stumbled across this forum. Wanna hang out sometime? PM me. \:D


I think I ran into him at college!
Posted By: pmbuko Re: Frosties with browning? - 04/01/10 04:56 AM
Yeah, he was the guy you'd find drinking the bong water.
Posted By: CV Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/01/10 05:27 AM
 Originally Posted By: RayLewis
Maybe if I try the stuff I'll understand what "spiritual messenger cats don't have rectums" means. And don't ruin it by explaining the meaning beforehand.


Ha ha ha.
Posted By: grunt Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/01/10 05:34 AM
 Originally Posted By: pmbuko

Yeah, he was the guy you'd find drinking the bong water.


Charles told me that wine tastes better. ;\)
Posted By: photonblur Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/01/10 04:55 PM

Back in the day the Zig Zag man had a tattoo of me on his arm,
I sorta kinda remember, or maybe not, yeah I think for sure,
probably.

PB
Posted By: Argon Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/01/10 04:57 PM
 Originally Posted By: audiosavant
Has anyone noticed that when playing back music that every source has a "correct" volume?

By that I mean, the sweet spot.

Increase the volume just 1 more and it becomes too loud and blaring, decrease it 1 less (than the sweet spot) and you can't quite achieve lift-off. Not enough "grunt factor" to rock out (or jazz out or symphony out or country out or...) with.

It seems that each "source" has a perfect volume that varies.

Or is this just me?


Looking at your avatar....would you say that your significant other is in her/your sweetspot.....or exceeding it?
Posted By: Argon Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/01/10 05:03 PM
I guess I should have read the whole thread before posting. It has been 18 years since for me. In college, after it warmed up during the spring, every Friday we met at the Bell Tower for "High Noon". You couldn't get in trouble for it ......back then.
Posted By: Argon Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/01/10 05:04 PM
One other thing......save a seat for me on the bus!!
Posted By: hybrid Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/01/10 07:36 PM
Now i'm hungry. I think
Posted By: RickF Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/01/10 07:43 PM
This thread hijack sure is bringing all of the old stoners out of the woodpile generating a lot of interest.
Posted By: grunt Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/01/10 07:57 PM
Why am I standing in the kitchen looking into the refrigerator?
Posted By: Ken.C Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/01/10 08:41 PM
 Originally Posted By: RickF
This thread hijack sure is bringing all of the old stoners out of the woodpile generating a lot of interest.


Yeah, I'm starting to feel a little, well, atypical.
Posted By: BlueJays1 Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/01/10 09:29 PM
 Originally Posted By: grunt
Why am I standing in the kitchen looking into the refrigerator?


Why am I staring at my hands when I could be watching television or playing videogames?
Posted By: pmbuko Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/01/10 09:36 PM
For me, it was "Why am I repetitively bumping the back of my head into the wall I'm standing/sitting against?"

-or-

"Why do my arms feel like they're immovable?"
Posted By: grunt Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/01/10 10:36 PM
One of my favorites was in Wisconsin, sitting one night on the roof above the porch of a house a friend of mine and I were renting looking up at the stars, when I say to him “Hey Leigh, is the sky moving?” Immediately he says that he was about to ask the same thing. Turned out it was one of the strongest Aurora Borealis in a long time. I had never seen it before so at first it was totally freaky watching colours ripple across the sky like waves. Ok it was still freaking awesome even after I realized what it was. \:\)
Posted By: BlueJays1 Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/01/10 11:03 PM
 Originally Posted By: pmbuko
For me, it was "Why am I repetitively bumping the back of my head into the wall I'm standing/sitting against?"

-or-

"Why do my arms feel like they're immovable?"


Did you hear that?
No?
Sounds like someone is knocking at the door?
Posted By: terzaghi Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/02/10 03:48 AM
Great thread \:\)
Posted By: BlueJays1 Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/02/10 04:25 AM
This thread smells like 1969.
Posted By: grunt Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/02/10 05:16 AM
As long as it doesn’t smell like old bong water.
Posted By: RickF Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/02/10 08:18 AM
It's 4:20 somewhere!
Posted By: pmbuko Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/02/10 03:32 PM
Only when it's 20 past some hour, though.
Posted By: fredk Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/02/10 08:09 PM
Turn the volume down maaan, I'm seein' too much purple...
Posted By: BlueJays1 Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/02/10 08:12 PM
Here the clock reads 4:20 all the time. No, literally! I need to change the battery.
Posted By: Argon Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/05/10 04:55 PM
Geez..I kinda hate to see this thread run out of steam.....It was takin me back to my youth. We had an "idiot" friend who fired one up at the State vs Carolina football game. We were 2 rows from the top of the lower section - in other words right at one of the entrances. The cop came over immediately tapped a couple of us on the shoulder and said "put that thing out or I'm takin you down town." That was it.
Posted By: Ken.C Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/05/10 04:57 PM
I don't think you need to put idiot in quotes.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/05/10 05:32 PM
Maybe he should've put friend in quotes.
Posted By: Ya_basta Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/05/10 07:50 PM
Could have put fired one up in quotes.
Posted By: RickF Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/06/10 09:03 PM
This is just one of the many *legal* stops the Axiom Magic Bus is going to make whenever we make it to California...

Wow Man!


Posted By: RayLewis Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/06/10 09:16 PM
That looks like that would be "kinda hip" when one is intoxicated in one way or anotehr.

To keep everybody in the happy frame of mind this topic seems to engender, does anybody watch the Showtime series Weeds? I don't have Showtime, but I own the first four seasons on DVD. I think the show is great. I keep waiting for the price to come down on Season 5 so I can get it on BluRay. (Don't say anything that would be a spoiler for season 5!)
Posted By: RickF Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/06/10 09:35 PM
Speaking of WOW ... I just noticed this.

Anybody remember that band?


Posted By: BobKay Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/06/10 09:44 PM
Yeah. The album cover w/ the car in the swimming pool and the dude with the gigantic blue Mohawk!
Posted By: BobKay Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/06/10 09:46 PM
I mean, if no one wanted to see electrical tape on my nips anymore, I'd off myself, too!
Posted By: RickF Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/06/10 09:50 PM
I saw her on the Tom Snyder Show (I believe that was the show) once where she blew up a bus and if I'm thinking correctly cut a bunch of somethings up with a chainsaw ... or something like that. It's been awhile.

I do distinctly remember thinking at the time .. 'Damn, that child can't sing a lick.'

Posted By: bridgman Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/06/10 09:55 PM
Speaking of "the correct volume" :

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Kelowna...9705/story.html
Posted By: RickF Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/06/10 09:57 PM
Were you able to keep anything at all John?


Posted By: BobKay Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/06/10 10:06 PM
Judging from the photo, that's what happens when you live in houses made with 1 x 2's and sided with pressed outmeal.
Posted By: Ken.C Re: The "correct" volume? - 04/07/10 03:01 AM
Where's the equipment list?!
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