sirquack, ya its for HT use, dont listen to much music at home. i just didnt want to feel like "what if i had gone with the M80's" you know what i mean? i am a little concerned though about the 4ohms on these M80's. i have read in a few places that an AV reciever isnt the best thing to use to run 4 ohm speakers. are they talking about for sterio use or for HT use? I like watching movies loud but not so loud that i cant hear someone next to me. you think the Denon Avr-885 will be fine with the M-80's for HT use? thanks