I gotta say though...the denon 3805 still is just not worth the price compared to the Pioneer 1015tx...i compared them directly, sound for sound, feature for feature, as well as the marantz units, and that pioneer is just impossible to beat IMHO

Axiom M60Ti Infinity 2000.6 x 4 Infinity RS1 rear Infinity CC200 HSU VTF3 - MKII