Race,

The "What is the best receiver" question is pretty much unanswerable.

The answer always boils down to 1) how much do you want to spend and 2) what features are important to you. Then you use your own ears to make the final judgment.

There will always be a spirited discussion about this one is bright and that one is laid back, but, at the end of the day, they all use copper. When you go out to do the research between 1 vs. 2, you will find 12 responses that give you 13 opinions.

If you are in the price range you are looking at for the 3808, picak ANY receiver around that price point with the features you want and you will be a happy guy.