Wow - I never would have thought the P4 EE was better - but i guess that huge 'L3' cache has to be good for something. (Hasn't become an ATI vs nVidia where an underdog becomes the faster one)

Itanium 2 - Heh I also forgot about this - How many MHz are they up to now? Last I remember was seeing an 800 MHz Itanium that just beat almost everything else.