I've never upgraded the firmware on my 3808. If I have the same problems after running Audyssey again tomorrow (subpar LFE results), do you think a firmware update might rectify my problem? If I checked what firmware version is currently installed, is there anywhere online that I can find out how dated it is, or would that require a phone call to Denon?

I can only go down to -12 dB also Jason.

The only reasonable argument for owning a gun is to protect yourself from the police.