Denon at $4000? Not even a consideration when you understand the new forthcoming(Feb./March) "Oppo" BDP-83 will have AT LEAST the equal amount of features, considerably better tech support for a little more than a tenth of the price. Denon products, especially their DVD players of most models, especially their Blu-Ray units, have always been grossly overpriced. In this day and age with concurrent generations of Blu-Ray players gradually coming down in price with added features and improved operational capabilities, it just doesn't make any sense to spend anywhere near the kind of money that would be required to purchase this particular new Denon player. For some reason, they have decided to produce a "large" and "heavy" so-called "flagship" player that offers the perception of something that is going to blow everything else out of the water performance wise, when in reality, it just is not going to be the case.