Peter, I have been to Vancouver (my parents live in nearby White Rock) and it is indeed a nice city. Surrounded by the coastal mountains and the ocean on the other side with a very moderate climate. Having lived in Southern Ontario most of my life, the people on the west coast(and I think this goes for the US too) are much more laid back than here. That's not a knock against Toronto by any means, it's also a beautiful city in it's own right, but the nicest areas in Ontario are mostly up in our cottage country(ask the folks in Dwight!!). For me, the summers in Northern Ontario are hard to compare. \:\)

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