I looked at it last night and it was list for $1699 but if you clicked on the "show price in cart" it went down to under $12something. To Murph's point, I was doing a what if and haven't been tracking to know what a good deal is, really. I had just seen it at J&R for $1699 and then Amazon at $1699 with a dramatic drop if you click on the cart button combined with the Blue Ray player. Seemed like a good deal. Particularly if the 2.0 compliance doesn't mean a lot to you?

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