I've noticed a little trend on this site that alot of people think that their speakers sound a little harsh or are to hard to place.I bought a pair of factory outlet m80's and replaced a pair of vega's and I"m totaly amazed of the sound quality of these speakers.I find myself buying diffrent tpes of music trying to trip them up and can't do it.actually the more I try this the more impressed I become.I've also found the placement of these speakers were not as difficult as what most reviewers have posted in the past. I have them setup with a Onkyo 787 a/v receiver and a pair of wireworld Oasis + speaker cabel and the detail,imaging and clarity are incredable to me.anyways that's what I think of my m80's so far and I'm intrested to see what other m80/m60 owner's think of their speakers.I think I've made a great purchase.Oh yea and one more thing...............................GO WINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!